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  • Permanent hair dye? How many do it?

    I've read for several years now that long term use can cause bladder cancer in some people. I've been doing it for a long time and 'want to get away from it but 'am afraid of going "all grey."
    I mentioned it to my stylist and she got very loud and defensive about her dyes saying there was "no proof" of any problems with them, etc.while I know there is a problem. I would like to change shops or just have the nerve to go "natural" but 'am afraid to do so just yet.
    Are there any other permanent hair dye people out there and are any of you thinking about getting away from them?
    I read recently that more and more middle aged women want to avoid all those chemicals sitting on their head for a long time each month in order to just for vanity/to obtain the desired color and are mustering up their courage and going all "white" or "grey." Thanks.
    P.S. I'm talking about "whole head" dyeing here -not just frosting or highlights.

  • #2
    I don't know, I dye my hair every 6 weeks. I am only 32 but would be grey without it. I wouldn't ever consider stopping dying my hair unless there was a surgeon general warning that said, "Hair dye CAUSES cancer". I doubt that will ever be. I wouldn't worry about it yet.....

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    • #3
      I've been coloring my whole head of hair for many years now. Used to go to the salon but to expensive so I get it from a box. Lately because of getting gray hair (hit over 40 mark) but I have been dying my hair mostly blonde. I have dark brown hair and just can not stand it. People have told me too that I will get cancer from dying it. Not bladder but brain cancer. I say there really are just way too many items in the world that could cause some form of something. If we worried about all of it we would have to live in a bubble but then would be made of plastic. I don't think your sylist should have gotten mad and made a big deal out of it. It was a question you had and she should have been business like and answered it.

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      • #4
        Semi permanent hair dye?

        I just had to respond to this...my hair dresser knows about my IC and permanent hair color enters the blood stream (I don't know how much--was told by someone)...my hair dresser at times has dyed my hair with semi permanent hair color and I didn't go under the hair dryer (maybe would have penetrated deeper)...semi permanent dye....seems to have less harmful items than permanent hair dye...

        you might find the following links interesting

        http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-a...o-blood-cancer

        http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-818.html

        http://www.niehs.nih.gov/centers/2002News/news9.htm

        http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/cos-hdye.html

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        • #5
          Frankly, if you have ever helped in a home hospice type situation with someone dying of cancer - you are pretty sure you want to absolutely minimize any chances you might have of every getting ca.
          That's what I try to do.
          Yes, I sure am not thrilled with looking my age (62) but considering what I have been through with my bladder over the last few months, I know I never want to endure anything in that area again if I don't have to!

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          • #6
            HI! I've used hair dye for over 35 yrs now. Years ago the dyes were much stronger than what's used now. Here's a website about dyes and bladder cancer....( http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=57129) ...I didn't have to look hard on Google to find it. I'm sure there's 'research' from both sides of the question with their own results.
            I know I'm not going to go gray or worrying about the dye....I have enough to worry about with health issues! Roxie

            Double Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery 8/09
            Unsuccessful MiniArc sling surgery 12/07
            Dx'd Hypothyroid
            Dx'd Chronic Axonal Neuropathy & Myopathy
            June 2007
            Dx'd IC May 2006 (after suffering for 25+ yrs!)
            First Cysto 1979
            First Hydro 1981 (Many treatments since then!)
            Collagin"Durasphere" injections for urethra
            Gall bladder surgery Aug. 2004
            Gastric Bypass Dec. 2004
            Dx'd: Barrett's Esphogus July 2004
            Dx'd: Vaginal Atrophy 2005
            Bladder surgery 2000
            Dx'd: IBS 2000
            Hysterectomy (fibroids) 1999
            Laminectomy 1989
            Dx'd: Degerative Disk Disorder 1989

            For IC I use Elmiron, Elavil and Freeze dried Aloe Vera (it works likes Elmiron, but naturally)and Azo as needed. I also take Zegerid, Randitine for Barrett's Esophagus. (which causes me to have constant yeast infections!)I take Cymbalta for Neuopathy/Myopathy pain. I use the Climara patch for menopause symptoms. I'm on a very strict diet because of the IC, IBS and Gastric Bypass. I take Primal Defense Probiotics and whole food Iron.
            I no longer have the awful urethral pain! I've been using MSM gel now for 4 mo. and haven't had a flare up or the urethra pain.....it's amazing stuff!!:woohoo:

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            • #7
              Hair dye

              I have colored my hair since I was 16 years old. The studies you were talking about I believe if I remember correctly were done with the darker hair colors such as blacks and dark browns, not blondes or reds or bleach.
              If you are allergic to anything or any substance than your body will react in some manner to it. Most people are not allergic to hair dye and if they were they would quit using it due to the itching and burning. Their are millions of women and men using hair dye all over the world, how many of them died from it? Probably not a statistical significant bunch.
              My mother died at 94 and always dyed her hair using the old products since she was about 20. She never had cancer.
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              • #8
                Roxi , Thanks for posting the info link concerning hair dyes. As a Mastercolorist , Inhaling and applying color for 23 years everyday. Its amonia content is not ,as strong as windex, Windex being 14% & Davines color that I work with , Is no stronger than 3.4 to 3.7 %. Thats including bleach, Thats lifts more than 7 levels, your stylist 1st of all should have never reacted to your question so rudely, Never ! Its her job to be able to answer all ,of any question's you have to your needs , while you sit in her chair for a service. The professional color business is comitted to the best quality,possible .Most of all health & well being for colorist's & stylist , Most of all the general public. I had to be approved , in Italy , To carry the line I use & the company would not send my order until the whole staff had 2 lessons on how to use the products.I am also in training every other weekend for 3 to 4 day's , To get my Masters , With this new company & also being trained at the same time to be a educator, for stylist's. The world of color is a passion for me. I do get upset when I hear that a stylist has handeled, this general question ,to a client so unprofessionally.If you have any concerns regarding your health & hair color, Than Put them aside. If you use purfume & cosmetics , any cleaning supplies, They are all also put into your blood stream, anything applied on the skin or inhaled will go into your blood stream,soap ,shampoo ,everything ! if you have any concerns I would be more concerned that someone would buy a drugstore product that has 4 to 8 times More amonia & chemicals that are mass produced to get the same results on all hair types, Thats a concern for me. and should be for you.Being it a henna or semi or demi .If it alteres the molecular inner cortex pigments of your hair , it's a dye! henna have the stronger cuticular strains, They will not leave the hair shaft as the molcules are so large thay get trapped in there, and are almost impossible to remove or correct, well I better stop here or I will never shut up. I just hope I was able to put your concern aside.
                Hugs Sandra
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                • #9
                  Thanks for all the great info! Roxie

                  Double Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery 8/09
                  Unsuccessful MiniArc sling surgery 12/07
                  Dx'd Hypothyroid
                  Dx'd Chronic Axonal Neuropathy & Myopathy
                  June 2007
                  Dx'd IC May 2006 (after suffering for 25+ yrs!)
                  First Cysto 1979
                  First Hydro 1981 (Many treatments since then!)
                  Collagin"Durasphere" injections for urethra
                  Gall bladder surgery Aug. 2004
                  Gastric Bypass Dec. 2004
                  Dx'd: Barrett's Esphogus July 2004
                  Dx'd: Vaginal Atrophy 2005
                  Bladder surgery 2000
                  Dx'd: IBS 2000
                  Hysterectomy (fibroids) 1999
                  Laminectomy 1989
                  Dx'd: Degerative Disk Disorder 1989

                  For IC I use Elmiron, Elavil and Freeze dried Aloe Vera (it works likes Elmiron, but naturally)and Azo as needed. I also take Zegerid, Randitine for Barrett's Esophagus. (which causes me to have constant yeast infections!)I take Cymbalta for Neuopathy/Myopathy pain. I use the Climara patch for menopause symptoms. I'm on a very strict diet because of the IC, IBS and Gastric Bypass. I take Primal Defense Probiotics and whole food Iron.
                  I no longer have the awful urethral pain! I've been using MSM gel now for 4 mo. and haven't had a flare up or the urethra pain.....it's amazing stuff!!:woohoo:

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                  • #10
                    I also have been dying my hair for years..
                    Hugs
                    Ronda

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                    • #11
                      Something to consider... What I've been doing for now is getting my hair hi-lighted and when needed low-lighted. My stylist uses foil and does not go quite down to my roots, so it doesn't have as much time to actually absorb into my scalp. Of course when she washes it out I do get some exposure. But I did notice a flare one time when we used red dye. Most of my gray is around my face so this works for now.
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                      • #12
                        I used to get foils all the time but the current (soon to be "ex") stylist made the comment that foils "took too long" - hmmmph! With the prices she charges I don't think she should complain about the time involved.
                        Maybe I am being too paranoid - I just like to keep the odds real low.

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                        • #13
                          You are not being paraniod, And i suggest you find a new stylist that has a more professional attitude, When meeting your needs or questions answered .
                          Hugs Sandra
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                          • #14
                            Hello Izazen. I am 63 so I was ready to give up coloring my hair. I had my hair cut as short as a man's, bought a wig and I'm waiting for what dark color is left to grow out. My hair was thinning from Elmiron anyway. My own hair appears to be a silver color. The roots have grown out over an inch. If I won't drink coffee because it is bad for my bladder why do I take a chance with hair color. No matter who says what, it can't be good for us. As I said I'm 63. If I were much younger I think I would take a chance with hair color. Sitting in a seat for over an hour at the hair dressers was not a pleasure either. My hair grows fast and at the end I was having it done every three weeks. My wig is gray on top with dark undertones at the bottom. So many people like it that when my hair grows out I will try to get it cut the very same way. I find it odd that many more woman get IC then men do. Could it be we color our hair more then they do? I don't have any idea. Having IC is terrible. If you find anything such as coloring your hair makes you happy, go for it. I intend to grab every ring while I am still on this merry-go-round. Hugs, Ziggy

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                            • #15
                              Ziggy, when I grew my hair out, I used a temporary hair rinse called Roux. It was great because it didn't penetrate the dyed portion so it washed out after two or three shampoos. It was a nuisance to use, but I even went to work and nobody noticed my "grow line" --- Once I was able to cut off the last of the dye, I was suddenly all white hair.

                              Donna
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