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  • Why IC after surgery?

    How come so many cases of IC start after abdominal or gynecological surgery? Could it be a (cryptic) hospital acquired infection? To me that seems like the most obvious conclusion. Or is it from being catheterized? Or something else entirely. [img]confused.gif[/img]

  • #2
    Maybe if we have a genetic predisposition to IC that kind of trauma sets it off?????
    Kim

    Diagnosed August 2001

    Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


    Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

    I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

    *****************************

    “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

    “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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    • #3
      But why is abdominal surgery traumatic to the bladder...of all the other organs closer to the site of the problem? It's not really connected...I don't know, I know we don't have the answers but I've just always wondered and wondered if anyone else did too. My mom had a hysterectomy a few years ago - I know people will say well it's all connected etc. etc. but for most people the bladder never plays into the picture with abdominal surgeries. [img]confused.gif[/img]

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      • #4
        I think that the reason people often develop IC after surgery is because they are often catheterized during or after the procedure. Many times, the technique used is not sterile, creating in the bladder the conditions which encourage the growth of bacteria and the onset of infection. In some people, this then develops into IC. This is what happened to me!

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        • #5
          Karen, I think so too. [img]frown.gif[/img] I have always been SO neurotic about hygiene - I watch everything a doctor does and don't let them touch or do anything wrong...I was fanatical about my own hygiene (to the point of obsessiveness), and now I get a disease that looks like it's most likely bacterial related. How ironic...

          How do you know they didn't use sterile technique? Is everyone catheterized from these surgeries?

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          • #6
            I started having symptoms after a c-section and during that they lift the bladder or detach something or something. I know they mess with it at some point.
            Kim

            Diagnosed August 2001

            Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


            Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

            I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

            *****************************

            “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

            “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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            • #7
              From: http://www.obgyn.net/women/articles/c-sec_dah.htm

              [quote]The bladder, uterus, ovaries, tubes, and intestines are all visible and sometimes have to be moved out of the way before cutting into the uterus (womb). <hr></blockquote>

              That is talking about c-section procedure. And if there isn't a genetic predisposition affecting the other organs then they might not be so traumatized... ??????
              Kim

              Diagnosed August 2001

              Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


              Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

              I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

              *****************************

              “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

              “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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              • #8
                Another quote:

                [quote]Some complications that can occur during or after a c/section include heavy bleeding, damage to the bladder or intestines, major infections of the uterus, kidneys, lungs, or other areas, opening up of the skin incision, blood clots around the uterus or in the leg veins or lungs, an inability of the blood to clot, and damage to the uterus that makes future childbirth more dangerous. <hr></blockquote>
                Kim

                Diagnosed August 2001

                Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


                Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

                I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

                *****************************

                “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

                “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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                • #9
                  Ooh, this is more info than I needed. <img src="graemlins/lmao.gif" border="0" alt="[lmao]" />

                  [quote] Once the uterus is closed with stitches, it is returned to the deep layers. Then the bladder must be reattached to the uterus- it was likely "peeled" off initially, which can lead to urinary stress incontinence. <hr></blockquote>

                  http://www.birthlove.com/free/anatomy.html

                  Now, that one is a site that is against most c-sections so the info is presented in a scary way (my opinion).
                  Kim

                  Diagnosed August 2001

                  Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


                  Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

                  I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

                  *****************************

                  “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

                  “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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                  • #10
                    With my last child at 21 I had to have an emergency C-section and my womb never healed back properly so I had to have the uterus removed 2 years later from continoues bleeding. But he also told me at that time that my uretha needed to have surgery because the tube was too small so they supposedly rebuilt me one but from then on I have had nothing but H-- with it. So 35 years later I am still having trouble with it. I have had numerous surgeries on it since. I feel it was something I was just born with. It was defective as is my bladder. Hugs

                    redstonebef

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