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    Hello everyone:

    I wanted to let you all know about how this dilemma is progressing trying to get medical assistance for my friend who is low income and suffering.

    I spent the entire day yesterday calling Social services for Maryland in two counties. A nightmare.

    It appears that in Maryland...the ONLY way my friend can get one of those coveted red and white medicaid cards is to be:

    1. over 65
    2. Disabled
    3. Blind
    4. Make LESS than $350.00 a month. (Wow, makes $129.00 a week cleaning sound like a good job doesn't it?)

    Other than that there is NOTHING for her.

    I tried to explain to 6 different people ranging from the 1st person who answered to phone all the way up to the Assistant Director's secretary that my friend needs a PROCEDURE that MAY render her disabled, but, there is no money to pay for the PROCEDURE!

    They just kept telling me that unless the doctors at the clinic where she has been write up a paper that says she is disabled and unable to work, she cannot get any medical coverage. Drugs yes, not hospitization.

    I told them that I am a Maryland taxpayer and I find it hard to believe that there is nothing available for this woman. I wanted to know where my tax dollars are going if they are not helping the poor and I was given the Senator's number and told to call him.

    One woman told me to simply take her to my Uro, if my uro wants to do a hydrodistention then go to the hospital and ask for financial assistance from the hospital. Some kind of program that the hospital, not SSI, has for people. Then, I was told as long as she pays something, even if it is a dollar faithfully a month, there is nothing they can do to her.

    I think that is what I am going to do. The doctors at the clinic where she has gone will not write her up as disabled. She has tried. I don't think they even know what IC is. They told her she has chronic inflammation of the bladder and to live with it. Oh yes, also to get a psychologist, because she is apparently whacky.

    Well folks, I know the pain of IC and whacky...is just scraping the surface of how I feel with it. In fact, I'd be happy is whacky is all I was.
    Boni

    IC diagnosed 2/05
    Alkaline Diet as much as possible
    VitaMixing, Power Smoothie Drinks,

    Pyridium
    Hydrocodeine for pain

    http://bonisbetterhealthjournal.blogspot.com

    ~~~~

    ROM: 8:37 "Yet in all these things we are more than conquerers through HIM who loved us."

  • #2
    Oh my heavens I'm so very sorry to hear that. I was sure she would be able to get on medicaid since she was getting other government assistant. its a pure shame I agree with you. It does make you wonder where the tax dollars are going? I mean heck even my children school bus heat is messed up and when i complain to the school about it they said there is no more funds there trying. come on folks this is unreal. I understand the way you feel all to well.
    I believe since she needs this done so badly i would do what that lady said to do let her go ahead with this surgery and pay them a dollar a mth. they will have to take it. They may however call and bother the heck out of her until its paid but they will have to take it. The hosp. may have some type of service she can get. there more likely will tell her about it after the service is done when they see she can't pay. however it want pay the Dr. unless there is another service in your area. I don't know about which is very poss. all states has different rules on how they do things.
    I wish you and your friend the best. I wish I could had found a easier way for the both of you threw this.
    I'm very sorry I don't have the answers. Medicaid was all I knew of and it really sound like the right answer for her.
    sending you both hugs and prayers
    Rhonda
    Medicine taken daily or as needed:
    1. Heaprin and Marcaine rescue installment 1 to 3x daily as needed.
    2. MS.Cotin 100mg 3x daily
    3. MSIR 30mg 1 or 2 every 4-6hrs as needed for breakthrew pain.
    4. Fentanyl 100 mg Change every 48hrs.
    5. Gentamicin 80mg install after each rescue treatment
    5 Leviquin 500mg self start as needed.
    6. Klonopin 1 or 2 daily as needed.
    7. Prosed/DS as 1 every 6hrs as needed.





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    • #3
      Usually when someone is admitted to the hospital, their Social Services person will help with getting financial assistance. Another thing she might do is to apply for assistance. Frequently people are told that they don't qualify, but when they actually fill in applications, they find that they do qualify. I know when I worked at a charity office and we sometimes sent people to the public services office, they would tell them there was no point in applying --- so I always told them to ask for the application form anyhow --- and most of them did get help. I know many budgets are straining to make ends meet, and sometimes discouraging applications helps cut costs.

      Donna
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      • #4
        Rhonda & Donna

        Thanks for your reply.

        Yes, I believe the hospital is our best recourse in this situation. My friend is going to apply for assistance even though they paint a dark picture at the SSI office about getting help. What I am hoping is that my Uro will be cooperative and charitable and not snobby. I know some doctors don't have time for people without insurance. I have called the Uro's office ahead of time to try to feel them out about this. They are telling us they will make a payment plan for the doctors visit, (which is good news) and then suggesting we work through the hospital for any procedures. I think that means they will be cooperative. They also said, "Wait until she sees the doctor and then go from there, you have a month or so to get ready for the procedure anyway." I guess that is positive.

        When the Assistant Director's secretary called me back I asked her point blank, "Is this system designed to force people to get jobs that have insurance benefits?" and the reply was, "Well, that would be good, but, mostly the funds have been cut."

        I think if it were me I would try to get a job "through the system" that would offer an insurance package. Maybe even get the system to pay for schooling so I could get the job. ANYTHING to be able to have what I need to handle IC.

        Of course, there is always prayer. Costs little but time and a sincere heart, which is what I am offering and also some of you. Thanks so much.
        Boni

        IC diagnosed 2/05
        Alkaline Diet as much as possible
        VitaMixing, Power Smoothie Drinks,

        Pyridium
        Hydrocodeine for pain

        http://bonisbetterhealthjournal.blogspot.com

        ~~~~

        ROM: 8:37 "Yet in all these things we are more than conquerers through HIM who loved us."

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        • #5
          there is Voc. Schools after my dad got hurt his doctor sent him to too learn a new trade. they help pay for learning the new trade help get any thing they need for the new trade etc. then after that person finish the course (schooling) then they pay a small % back out of there paycheck they even. told my dad they help with getting back and forth to the school if they don't have a car etc. Like a bus pass, help pay for a taxi, even paid for one man a mo-pad because he was walking to the school My dad is 61 years old and they where more then willing to help my dad. They even pay you to learn a new trade the down fall is it may be 2.00 an hr., but there training you for a better life down the road in life.
          If a person is willing to work there willing to train. Even disable people.
          My dad is 50% disable in his left arm. He decided not to take those classes right now, but still thinks maybe he will go for it soon.
          They have all type of strings they can pull threw Voc. reab. School. So that is just a thought for her to check into she may be able to do this with her housecleaning she already does. It want count against her because they don't pay much. They should be a Voc. reab. school in every state. Look threw the local phone book and get her the number or if she has a phone ask her to look for it. I believe this service may be a great deal of help to her.

          in the mean time Donna gave some great advice also. I don't know why i didn't think of telling you to tell her to apply anyways.
          once my husband was out of work because and admitted in the hosp he was in there for three weeks and the social worker helped him get back on medicaid temp. to pay the hosp bills and get his meds etc. until he could get back to work. there is many services out there. the sad thing is you have to know the people to pull strings they know how to get threw the red tape quicker.
          sending best wishes and prayers. please keep us updated.
          Rhonda
          Medicine taken daily or as needed:
          1. Heaprin and Marcaine rescue installment 1 to 3x daily as needed.
          2. MS.Cotin 100mg 3x daily
          3. MSIR 30mg 1 or 2 every 4-6hrs as needed for breakthrew pain.
          4. Fentanyl 100 mg Change every 48hrs.
          5. Gentamicin 80mg install after each rescue treatment
          5 Leviquin 500mg self start as needed.
          6. Klonopin 1 or 2 daily as needed.
          7. Prosed/DS as 1 every 6hrs as needed.





          I have IC, but IC doesn't have me anymore!

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          • #6
            Well here you have to be on SS Disability or over 65 and on Social Security, to even receive Medicare which takes TWO YEARS AFTER you receive that help from Social Security. We don't even have welfare here.

            To get Medical Assistance which would cover the doctor and hospitals, one can only have up to $2,000 in assets, etc., and low low income probably practically nothing.

            Well the hospital told me to not ever return there unless it is an emergency. Unless of course I have cash, insurance, Medicare or Medical Assistance. Financial Assistance before you see the doctor?? Well I told the doctor I couldn't afford to go to the specialists nor the hospital and that the hospital forbid me returning there, he didn't give me any ideas on how to go there.

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            • #7
              I agree that it's whacky

              Hi Boni:

              Your friend should definitely apply for SSI (or SSDI) if she has not already. If her own doctors (uros) won't support her, she might benefit from seeing a psychiatrist. I say this only because it's sometimes an easier way for a person to receive disability based upon the accompanying depression/anxiety that goes along with being in so much pain. The "system" does suck and most people are thrown into it when they don't have the resources mentally and physically to navigate it.

              As for hospital bills, at least where I live, the 4 major hospitals here have programs for low-income patients. As was mentioned before, even if she has to be admitted as self-pay, arrangements can be worked out later. Whether that means sending them a dollar a month or applying for aid, it's something that can be dealt with after the fact. As far as the doctor's fees are concerned, that might not be so easily dismissed. Most doctors, will however, arrange a payment plan. In other words, I wouldn't worry so much about the hospital bills as opposed to the doctor's fees.

              I feel really bad for your friend. It's unfortunate that so many deserving people can't get the help that they so desperately need. What a shame that we aren't even close to having universal health care coverage for every American. Here's hoping things start to look up for your friend.

              Hugs,
              Lynne

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              • #8
                Hospitals

                Local hospital that I went to a lot of years told me they needed like $500 down before I went for a simple blood test. I told the lady I didn't have $500. I told her the dr said it would only cost like $200. Well she let me go for the test finally after I said a few things. Then when I had another test, she called - did you come back again? I need this bill paid in six months.... (We WERE already making monthly payments). Well that amount wasn't enough she said! Then I had to go to a specialist and have a cat scan. Well she tried to stop me, but the appointment was the next morning. They wanted money before I went like half of the bill. Sorry can't do that. Finally I talked her into letting me go to the doctor and the cat scan. Had the cat scan. She calls the next day. Were you here again, I thought I told you not to come back? I told her you gave me permission on the phone yesterday to have this cat scan today. Well you can't keep coming here (at the hospital) requesting treatment and not being able to pay for it.

                So see why I say I can't go back? She'd say she wanted the money down, or all of it first. There is no such thing as paying $1 a month. They'd turn the bill over to a collection agency who would call. Bad enough having the hospital billing people call.

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                • #9
                  Wow, I am so sorry that you have had someone treat you in that manner, Domaincat! That's awful.

                  My friend has been truned away from the free clinic she goes to as well. They don't want her back because they can't do anything for her. I think they don't have a clue what IC is.

                  I am willing to pay for her doctor's visit, but, she will have to handle anything at the hospital. I just can't commit to that. Someone at SSI told me, "They can't get blood out of a rock, if she doesn't have it, she doesn't have it." As long as she attempts to pay something every month the hospital will work out a plan for her.

                  I agree Sparky2, maybe a back door in might be through the psychologist and not the medical doctors for disability. I believe she is clinically depressed. I'm not sure what meds she is on. In the past she told me she has been on Elmiron, (didn't work) and several others.

                  Thanks for all your posts. I am learning many things here and very grateful.
                  Boni

                  IC diagnosed 2/05
                  Alkaline Diet as much as possible
                  VitaMixing, Power Smoothie Drinks,

                  Pyridium
                  Hydrocodeine for pain

                  http://bonisbetterhealthjournal.blogspot.com

                  ~~~~

                  ROM: 8:37 "Yet in all these things we are more than conquerers through HIM who loved us."

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                  • #10
                    Shoot, I remember your other post and I was hoping I wasnt right. But I was pretty sure she couldnt get medicaid as I have been told the same thing here.

                    Is there a hospital she can go to that has a low income program? Most larger hospitals do this. That is how I got all my testing done, at no cost. I just had to pay the radiologist bill (and they are accepting payments from me). I also still owe my doctor bills, but they've also been good about taking payments. Ask the social services department at the hospital. They gave me the direct number to someone in charge that took care of everything for me. Believe me, you have to ASK, they won't volunteer the info.

                    And, do not wait till the bills are in collections. They hospital programs will not help once the bills have been turned over to a collection agency, even if you do qualify. I applied right after I had my first test, before I even received a bill and was approved for that and the tests that followed.

                    Also, tell her to keep receipts for any money that she does pay on hospital, dr bills, medications, etc for tax purposes.


                    -J
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                    • #11
                      Thank you for your above post it is greatly appreciated. I already tried to get assistance like was mentioned above. She had said something like okay well if I send you out this form, then you can't come back. That type of thing is after the fact for old bills not new ones, it is not like an insurance plan the billing person said.

                      I already still have a big neurologist bill to pay for besides two x-ray bills to pay for. The hospital and doctor bills were for now taken care of by some plan, but I am not supposed to go back. Unless of course I qualify for (which I do not), Medicare and/or Medical Assistance. Otherwise she wants CASH or else it has to be an emergency. It's actually okay for now at least, as many of the things that I have I am now finding NATURAL remedies for (see other topics). If I had the insurance, I may have had the hysterectomy already due to the fibroids. But since I am into natural remedies, found natural treatment through the use of enzymes. And even for my chronic asthma, have found natural treatment through the use of a salt lamp (see other topic), well it helps a bit by purifying the air. Still need the prescription meds though for now.

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                      • #12
                        ssi

                        hi
                        Originally posted by Boni
                        Hello everyone:

                        I wanted to let you all know about how this dilemma is progressing trying to get medical assistance for my friend who is low income and suffering.

                        I spent the entire day yesterday calling Social services for Maryland in two counties. A nightmare.

                        It appears that in Maryland...the ONLY way my friend can get one of those coveted red and white medicaid cards is to be:

                        1. over 65
                        2. Disabled
                        3. Blind
                        4. Make LESS than $350.00 a month. (Wow, makes $129.00 a week cleaning sound like a good job doesn't it?)

                        Other than that there is NOTHING for her.

                        I tried to explain to 6 different people ranging from the 1st person who answered to phone all the way up to the Assistant Director's secretary that my friend needs a PROCEDURE that MAY render her disabled, but, there is no money to pay for the PROCEDURE!

                        They just kept telling me that unless the doctors at the clinic where she has been write up a paper that says she is disabled and unable to work, she cannot get any medical coverage. Drugs yes, not hospitization.

                        I told them that I am a Maryland taxpayer and I find it hard to believe that there is nothing available for this woman. I wanted to know where my tax dollars are going if they are not helping the poor and I was given the Senator's number and told to call him.

                        One woman told me to simply take her to my Uro, if my uro wants to do a hydrodistention then go to the hospital and ask for financial assistance from the hospital. Some kind of program that the hospital, not SSI, has for people. Then, I was told as long as she pays something, even if it is a dollar faithfully a month, there is nothing they can do to her.

                        I think that is what I am going to do. The doctors at the clinic where she has gone will not write her up as disabled. She has tried. I don't think they even know what IC is. They told her she has chronic inflammation of the bladder and to live with it. Oh yes, also to get a psychologist, because she is apparently whacky.

                        Well folks, I know the pain of IC and whacky...is just scraping the surface of how I feel with it. In fact, I'd be happy is whacky is all I was.

                        hi if she signs up for ssi they will send her for testing and to doctors and can determine her disability and she can get it with ic with no problem and then she can get the help she needs

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                        • #13
                          Boni:

                          Just wanted to know if you got your friends medicaid yet? You need to take her in person with all of her papers (what she makes monthly, pays out in monthly bills, etc) sometimes its seems like an all day process.) This is what I had to do with a friend of mine. I work for the state of Texas. At first she received food stamps, SSI, and housing. Now the State says she makes too much money so she doesn't get food stamps for her family. (Its her and her 2 grand children and they live on her SSI and one of her grand childrens SSI who is also disabled total income is about $700.00 a month. I don't know how she does it, as everythng in Texas is high, her electric bill I know runs about $375.00 a month due to the oxygen that her grandson uses 24/7.)
                          Anyway, sorry for rambling on here, but like I said, just take her down and have her apply in person, hopefully she can get something.
                          Good luck to her.

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                          • #14
                            Hi Mary:

                            My friend is attempting to get on Medicaid herself. I have to work and can't go with her in the daytime. However, she has her doctor's appt in January and I am taking her and will pay for it. After that, if the doctor orders a procedure, (like a hydrodistention), then i wlll go with her to the hospital finance dept. and requst financial aid. If that doesn't work I don't know what we will do. We will just have to rough it through this STUPID SYSTEM that our gov't has! I still can't believe that she can't get help.

                            Boni
                            Boni

                            IC diagnosed 2/05
                            Alkaline Diet as much as possible
                            VitaMixing, Power Smoothie Drinks,

                            Pyridium
                            Hydrocodeine for pain

                            http://bonisbetterhealthjournal.blogspot.com

                            ~~~~

                            ROM: 8:37 "Yet in all these things we are more than conquerers through HIM who loved us."

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                            • #15
                              Oh how i know the system stinks they count what comes in but they don't count a dime that goes out when it comes to adults, however the system is diff for preg ladies, children, and those who are disable. I know it isn't fair. they could care less about a car payment power bill house payment etc. You just about have to have near nothing in order to get any help from the government with medical cost.
                              I know there fixing to try to stop medicaid from paying for a lot of drugs everyone who is on medicare is going to be switched over to the new medicare plan so medicaid pays nearly nothing. (like they are really paying something anyways.) medicaid only pays a 1.00 on every hundred on what a Dr. charges. so i can understand why Dr. are not accepting medicaid much any more they just keep cutting the cost of what they pay. I honestly believe only the Dr. who care about patients as real people now a days except medicaid, but yet you still get a few that says well I'm not going to get much off this so and so so why should I help so and so.
                              its so unfair! it just makes me sick to think about how many sick people they are out there that has no health inc. We paid our taxes when we worked. A lot of us still pays taxes if we don't our husbands or some family member does.
                              there is more money that is going into the medicaid system then what is coming out.
                              I guess someone is getting rich, but i do know the poorer keeps get that much further behind.
                              such a sad sad fact of life.
                              Medicine taken daily or as needed:
                              1. Heaprin and Marcaine rescue installment 1 to 3x daily as needed.
                              2. MS.Cotin 100mg 3x daily
                              3. MSIR 30mg 1 or 2 every 4-6hrs as needed for breakthrew pain.
                              4. Fentanyl 100 mg Change every 48hrs.
                              5. Gentamicin 80mg install after each rescue treatment
                              5 Leviquin 500mg self start as needed.
                              6. Klonopin 1 or 2 daily as needed.
                              7. Prosed/DS as 1 every 6hrs as needed.





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