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    I'm updating our diet list for 2011, adding new info on alcohol, reorganizing a bit. Did we miss anything in the last list that you would like to see us include?? http://www.ic-network.com/diet/2009icdietlist.pdf
    Would you like to talk with someone about your IC struggles? The ICN now offers personal coaching sessions that include myself, Julie Beyer RD on the diet and Dr. Heather Howard on Sexuality. http://www.icnsales.com/icn-personal-coaching/

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  • #2
    I think peanuts should be in they try it or caution column, rather than bladder friendly.

    Pecans are listed in both the try it and caution columns. That is confusing.

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    • #3
      I agree Briza about the peanuts but the Long Island diet study showed that the great majority of patients tolerated peanuts without any flares at all which is why we reduced the category.
      Would you like to talk with someone about your IC struggles? The ICN now offers personal coaching sessions that include myself, Julie Beyer RD on the diet and Dr. Heather Howard on Sexuality. http://www.icnsales.com/icn-personal-coaching/

      Looking for books, magazines & reports on IC? Please visit the ICN Shop at: http://www.icnsales.com: Your ICN subscription & purchases in our shop support these message boards, chats and special events. BECOME AN ICN ANGEL TODAY!

      Please remember that the information on the ICN is provided with the understanding that ICN, its founder, staff, volunteers, and participants are not engaged in rendering medical or professional medical services. We cannot and do not give medical advice. Only your personal physician can do this for you.






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      • #4
        Seaweed appears to be missing. I've always wondered about it.
        Current Meds: Nortriptyline (35 mg), Hydroxyzine (50 mg), Cephalexin (250 mg before sexual activity)
        As Needed: Prelief, AZO, Evian Water, Aleve

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        • #5
          It looks great, I'm making a menu and shopping list right now so this is very handy.
          I'm also wondering about seaweed - the crispy seasoned ones give me a red flag right away..
          21 years old
          dx: severe OAB, mild/moderate IC, depression, PTSD, agoraphobia, chronic fatigue, IBS, peripheral neuropathy

          ♥ looking for a way or medication to help stop spasms ♥

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          • #6
            I didn't spot the new alcohol part. But, I've always wondered about calamata olives. I see the black and green ones on the list. Could you let us know about calamata? They are my favorites.

            Also, what about apple cider vinegar? I've heard it is more alkaline, but don't dare chance it without some guidance.

            Thanks for all your hard work!
            treatment:
            -I follow the IC diet to the letter
            -acupuncture and chinese herbs
            -Prelief
            -UTA
            -instillations as needed
            -beginning yoga and specialized yoga for breathing and relaxation
            -Wellbutrin
            -Klonopin


            main symptoms: pain and burning

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            • #7
              Garlic is bladder-friendly, right?

              Also, what about rice cakes? I see that rice is OK and cheddar cheese is, too, but what about a cheddar rice cake? I guess that would be "seasoned" or maybe have preservatives? Anyone know if we are allowed to eat them?
              Diagnosed with IC in April 2011. Medications and IC treatments did not help, diagnosed with PFD in September of 2013. Still searching for answers as to why I have never-ending frequency/urgency issues.

              Current medications/treatments:
              Pelvic physical therapy, valium suppositories, b and o suppositories, acupuncture, probiotics, magnesium, epsom salt baths

              Previous medications/treatments:
              Elmiron, Hydroxizine, Elavil, VESIcare, Series of rescue instillations using Elmiron, water, lidocaine, & sodium bicarb and self-cathing with instills as needed, D-mannose, Glucosamine, Hyophen (generic Prosed), Colostrum, IC diet, PTNS, chiropractic treatments, Desert Harvest Aloe Vera, CystoProtek

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              • #8
                Diet

                In desperation for a desert, I tried TRader Joes Almond Biscotti with a de-caf tea. They are delishous (especially if you dip them in the hot tea) and so far..no flare.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by penneyjo View Post
                  I didn't spot the new alcohol part. But, I've always wondered about calamata olives. I see the black and green ones on the list. Could you let us know about calamata? They are my favorites.

                  Also, what about apple cider vinegar? I've heard it is more alkaline, but don't dare chance it without some guidance.

                  Thanks for all your hard work!
                  I'm not sure where the idea came from that apple cider vinegar is alkaline??? I've seen that circulating on the board. Wrong--By nature, vinegar, regardless the type, is acidic, and very acidic at that! Acidity can be lowered by dilution.

                  Here's an exerpt from wikipedia:
                  Vinegar is an acidic liquid produced from the fermentation of ethanol in a process that yields its key ingredient, acetic acid (ethanoic acid). It also may come in a diluted form. The pH of table vinegar ranges from 2.4 to 3.4[1] (higher if diluted). The acetic acid concentration typically ranges from 4% to 8% by volume for table vinegar[2] and up to 18% for pickling vinegar. Natural vinegars also contain small amounts of tartaric acid, citric acid, and other acids. Vinegar has been used since ancient times and is an important element in European, Asian, and other cuisines.
                  Apple ciderApple cider vinegar, otherwise known simply as cider vinegar or ACV, is made from cider or apple must, and has a brownish-yellow color. It often is sold unfiltered and unpasteurized with the mother of vinegar present, as a natural product. It is very popular, partly because of beneficial health and beauty properties[6] and possible weight-loss properties. Because of its acidity, apple cider vinegar may be very harsh, even burning, to the throat. If taken straight, (as opposed to used in cooking), it can be diluted (e.g., with fruit juice or water) before drinking.[7] It is also sometimes sweetened with sugar or honey.[8] There have been reports of acid chemical burns of the throat from apple cider vinegar tablets, but "doubt remains as to whether apple cider vinegar was in fact an ingredient in the evaluated products."[9]
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar

                  Kalamata olives I believe would be considered black olives.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by greenredhead View Post
                    Seaweed appears to be missing. I've always wondered about it.
                    I can eat wakame, actually I found that it makes me feel better.

                    Briza, It is thought that Apple Cider Vinegar causes one's pH levels to become more alkaline. Apple Cider Vinegar in itself is alkaline because of its "ash" content, which means if the apple cider vinegar was burned, what is left over becomes ash. When you check for the pH of that ash and dissolve it with water, the content is alkaline. Whenever our body digests anything, it undergoes oxidation, which is similar to burning and the end result is that you can determine whether the end product was alkaline or acid.
                    The confusion probably comes from the idea that it makes your urine alkaline but alkaline forming food doesn't mean alkaline urine. Like you said, it is an acidic liquid. I tried once on my salad and it caused me burn not only in my bladder but also in my stomach.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by icnmgrjill View Post
                      I'm updating our diet list for 2011, adding new info on alcohol, reorganizing a bit. Did we miss anything in the last list that you would like to see us include?? http://www.ic-network.com/diet/2009icdietlist.pdf
                      A few things I've wondered about - goat cheese, tamarind paste, and lemongrass. A little exotic, I know, but great ways to flavor food. I'm curious about all three - I seem to tolerate them well, but I'm not super food sensitive.
                      Lori

                      40 y.o. mom, wife and marketing manager

                      "Il faut manger pour vivre, et non pas vivre pour manger." -- Moliere ("One should eat to live, not live to eat.")

                      IC symptoms began Feb 2010; diagnosed Mar 2010

                      Treatments:

                      Oral
                      Elmiron 3x day; Elavil 25 mg/day; Prelief (when I remember!); Benadryl and Prosed DS as needed for flares

                      Other
                      Acupuncture 2x/month; yoga; IC Diet; meditation and breathing exercises for stress; heating pad for flares

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                      • #12
                        I have been wondering about grated orange peel and lemon grass in cooking. Haven't heard much about it and if it effects anyone.

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                        • #13
                          I think providing this diet list is one of the best services the ICN offers. Don't know where I'd have been without it!

                          I would like to see some sort of a disclaimer on the actual list itself that "bladder friendly" isn't an absolute. If one reads the text on the page leading up to the diet, "Bladder Friendly includes foods that rarely bother even the most sensitive IC bladders" that does kind of indicate friendly isn't 100% guaranteed for all. But I wonder how many read that, compared to those who simply skip forward to the list? To me, the heading bladder friendly is too apt to remove any possibility of doubt.

                          I know for myself, I went a long time discounting one of my trigger foods as a possibility because it was under usually friendly (or was it usually safe?) on the old listing chart.

                          Vicki
                          "The happiest people don't necessarily have the best of everything; they just make the best of everything they have."

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                          • #14
                            How about supplements and herbal stuff that people might try by mistake? The B vitamins and C also are like battery acid to the IC bladder. Thanks!

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                            • #15
                              How about coconut milk and coconut water? I hear they are good for the bladder...?
                              treatment:
                              -I follow the IC diet to the letter
                              -acupuncture and chinese herbs
                              -Prelief
                              -UTA
                              -instillations as needed
                              -beginning yoga and specialized yoga for breathing and relaxation
                              -Wellbutrin
                              -Klonopin


                              main symptoms: pain and burning

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