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  • ICNDonna
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    You might want to think about having the blood test done. As it is you have been agonizing for several days --- with the blood test, at least you would know. And if the test is negative, you can think about shots to prevent it.

    I know this has been an awful time for you.

    Warm hugs,
    Donna

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  • Moonheart
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    If she has feline leukemia you need to know about it because it is contagious. You could be carrying it outside the home and transmitting it to other people and their animals and they'll get sick and die. There are shots for feline leukemia when they are little, but also when they are adults is not too late. Then you don't have to suffer like this.

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  • waterflow
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    Berkshire Road, I am glad you have a good vet. Surprised they let you stay with your dog. I couldn't even go in back with mine. The one I thought was good but I had a gut feeling he wasn't. The woman came to get my dog and put one of those choke leash things on him. He didn't want to go (who would) and she kept pulling and thing kept getting tighter around his neck. I got mad and took it off of him. He had his collar on so could use a normal leash. When I went to pick him up they brought him into the room and then the vet came in and the dog jumped up on the chair and coward in the corner. Not a good sign but couldn't say if anything happened since I wasn't there. I'm not really complaining about the price if she had actually done something for it. 15 minutes and to just say Patches and the kittens were going to die when she didn't check her hind legs or hips. I know it is hard to hear but they should be certian about it before upsetting the person that's all.

    Briza, the vet said it was either a dead kitten in her or leukemia. Shen never said it could be her hips are out of joint or a pinched nerve. I told her it was just those few times out of the blue. Not constant but I told her no about the blood test for it. If she does have it, I don't want to know. Means the kittens will die too. If she is doing fine when it is time for the kittens shots then I will have her tested and they say the kittens have to be tested too.

    I think the problem with Patches is between the birth and having to stay in a tiny box her back legs were going numb. It happened again while I gave her a snack last night but after she was out and walking, stretching and such she was fine. jumped up on the window ledge again. Replaced her tiny box with the big one this morning so will see how it goes. I am going to call teh SPCA and see what they say about it while calling about the shots. At least I will say I am learning about cat care.

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  • Berkshire Road
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    I'm sorry you've had such bad experiences with vets, Waterflow. We have had mostly good luck, pretty much everyone we know is happy with their vet. There is a lot of competition in this area; maybe that helps the situation. We also had to leave our dog for his only surgery. I guess I never expected to be allowed to sleep in the Animal Hospital, so I didn't get too upset. We were allowed to call at any hour and my daughter (who was 9 at the time) kept calling over and over; they finally put the dog on the phone for her! He licked the phone and sighed, according to her. But they were very nice about her calling all night. I don't live in a rural area, so most vets here focus their practices on pets; maybe that makes the difference.

    I know having to hear that there is no hope is hard, but it is no different from when the doctor tells you that about (for example, in my case) your grandmother. I definitely didn't want to hear that or to have to make the decision, but my parents were away (on another continent) and I had to be the one. I don't mistrust doctors because of that.

    On the other hand, we've had a terrible time settling on a good pediatrician for our daughter. We have finally found one, we think, now that she has 12 years old!

    I am very glad to hear that the cat is moving around better. I am so relieved. You can breathe again, now.

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  • leelee88
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    I think you are right Mary.. If this was her first litter of babies I bet she just had a hard time.. If shes moving around like you said and playing and eating, sounds like she will be fine Oh and BTW.. when I had my first child I couldnt walk for days..lol

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  • waterflow
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    Moonheart, The vet said it could be retained placenta. To watch and see if anything oozes out where she gave birth and for smell. So far nothing is oozing. I really think she just went through a hard labor and needs time to get over it. Thanks for caring about her.

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  • waterflow
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    Mel, THANK YOU!!! I printed it out so I will have it if need be. I do think she will be ok and so will the kittens. She jumped on the couch last night then onto the window ledge and sat there waving her tail back and forth wanting something she could see outside. I couldn't see anything. Then she chased the moth flying on the outside of the window. Was so mad she couldn't get to it. This morning she followed me up the stairs into the kitchen like always and had no problem. She took them slower then normal but that is to be expected. I'm not thinking it is leukemia anymore and reading what you posted has really helped. Thank you again.

    Berkshire Road, every vet but one I have been to has been no good. I've had to leave the dogs to get operations with them but felt awfully guilty afterwards. Teh one good vet was a farm one and he came to the house when the dogs were to bad to take anywhere. He retired and his son took over and he won't do that. Only farm animals. I know they will need a vet some time just trying to find a good one is as hard as finding a good doc. I do know putting an animal to sleep is the owners say in the end but having to hear there is no hope for the animal is hard to take. Esxspecially when they didn't need to be put down. Gues you have to shop around for vet care just like people care. I should ahve gone on to be a vet but couldn't take seeing the sick animals but I should have gone on anyway.

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  • Moonheart
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    Is it possible she got into something and ate it like detergent or other similar things?
    Have her symptoms improved or is she still weak in the back like that?
    If she has a fever, I would tend to think retained placenta.
    Hope she's better soon and big hugs for you.

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  • Berkshire Road
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    Waterflow, please don't write off all vet. care because of this one insensitive person you've encountered. The fact is, animals do sometimes need professional care, and it's easiest if you have an established relationship with the vet.

    I would do everything for my dogs if I could, but there is no way for me to give them their rabies shots, or to clear up the eye infection one of them just had, or to treat poor Rusty's arthritis. I would just be guessing, and my dogs deserve the care of a knowledgeable and caring vet. And really, most of them are. I'm sorry you landed a loser vet, but most of them are not like that. Most of them are in it because they love animals, and they NEVER suggest that an animal be euthanized unless it is suffering intractable pain from an incurable condition. And even then, it is up to the owner to decide.

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  • Mel53H
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    I found something about weak back legs...

    I hope this helps. It sounds treatable if this is what she has. Mel

    Pet Health: Neuropathy









    HELP! My Cat Has Weak Back Legs!
    Feline diabetes often causes weakness in the hind legs of cats. Rather than walking normaly, the cat will walk on his hocks (see image below). This condition, neuropathy, is nerve damage caused by high blood glucose levels (hyperglycemia). If your cat has weak hind legs, you should see a vet to discuss treatment options.

    Nerves, cells in the eye, and kidney cells are particularly sensitive to damage since these cells do not require insulin in order to take up glucose from the blood. Where blood glucose is very high in poorly regulated diabetics these cells take up lots of glucose which causes internal damage. Keeping blood glucose levels as near normal as possible and avoiding large fluctuations in the levels helps to prevent this type of cellular damage in diabetics

    In the case of leg problems, many cats will improve tremendously when their blood sugars come under control. In these cases, the hind leg weakness may be caused by electrolyte imbalances (e.g. low potassium levels) related to excessive urination. There is some evidence that methyl-B12, a vitamin, also known as methylcobalamin, may be a beneficial supplement. Also, diabetes that is not under control causes muscle wasting (diabetes is a CATABOLIC or "breaking down" disease) and your cat's back leg problems may be due to extreme muscle weakness.

    This is a common problem and a heartbreaking one. If the problem seems to come on rapidly, check your cat's blood glucose level (or several levels) to make sure her blood sugar is under control. An alternative is to have your vet draw blood for a fructosamine test to check for longer term control. Your vet can do an examination and check a potassium level, also.

    And make your cat exercise! Physical therapy can do wonders for improvement.

    More on Methyl-B12:

    Methyl-B12, also known as methylcobalamin, has worked wonders on many cats with neuropathy. It is important that you use METHYL-B12. Other forms of vitamin B-12 will not work. You may obtain this supplement at many health food stores. Most FelineDiabetes.com users will give their cat 3-5 mg per day to treat neuropathy.


    Cat walking on his hocks.
    Methyl-B12 reversed the neuropathy!
    Courtesy of Karen and Rambo


    Last updated 03/21/2006.



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  • waterflow
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    Thanks meme and Mel. She has been acting the same just tired. Feeding every 2 hours and she won't eat unless they are sleeping. If they are awake they're eating. She is still eating and drinking and going potty just fine. I stay with her while she eats or we never get to see each other anymore. She doesn't seem to mind going potty in front of me even though I do try to give her some privacy. Patches is still flinging the cat liter even with the big box. She got some stuck on her front paw and almost flung it at me. It went flying over my head to I don't know where.

    I am going to call around tomorrow and get another opinion but only on the phone. think I will call the SPCA. I've never given birth but having 4 large , and they were large, babies has to do something down there and maybe that was her first litter? They say the first one is the hardest.

    Thank you all for helping me on this. I'm not quit so worried now. I will keep an eye on her and as long as she eats, drinks and poops she should be fine.

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  • Mel53H
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    I have had cats all my life. I have watched many cats give birth. Right now I have 5. They are all fixed though.
    The only time I would get worried is when they don't eat and if they drink too much water. It sounds like she had some big kittens and she might have done something temporarily to her back legs. I would not worry.

    I would go to a better vet than the one you went to. Ask a friend or a neighbor where they take their pets to the vet. Don't go back to that vet. He sounded like a quack!

    So, as long as she is eating and feeding her kittens, then I think that she will be fine.

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  • meme
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    I'm sorry you're having vet trouble. Hopefully she just jumped to conclusions and everyone will be fine. Most of my cats who've had kittens just lay around the next few days with their babies. I would keep giving her the antibiotic like leelee said. It won't hurt her none so its better to just be safe. Eating is a good sign too. I'd just keep an eye on her and how much she eats and goes to the bathroom.
    Calico cats are almost always female. Sounds like you have some baby granddaughters!!!! Hope everything gets better! Don't feel bad about getting a second opinion if you need too. Your vet could be way off.

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  • waterflow
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    Thanks leelee and Erika. I tried looking on the internet too but only found it affects 1-2% of cats and it is a virus. I do know from watching tv if she does have she doesn't have long. Now I'm waiting for her and the kittens to die. Which I'm sure that vet was over reacting. Had one long ago tell me my dog ,who was 2 then,, was dying from lymph node cancer. Someone the night before gave her a bad piece of meat and she almost died. That was why I took her there. He said the best thing would be to put her to sleep. Thankfully I didn't listen! She lived to be 19. I'm just worried beyond worried. She has been tired but she just gave birth and I'm sure woman are tired too after that. She had 4 babies that were big. If she eats then she is ok right? I know none of you are vets but I'm sort of asking for some good news help on this. If they are ok then I"m keeping the kittens with me inside. Read if they stay inside they can't catch anything. Did learn that 3 are females and one might be male but she couldn't tell. I thought Garfield Jr. (tiger) would have been male. I'll try to calm down and not think the worse which is very very hard. I think doctors and vets should learn better ways of talking to people about these things.

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  • leelee88
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    I think maybe the vet has over reacted.. She could of pinched a nerve while giving birth.. Or it could be many other things like a pulled muscle, I cant believe the vet jumped to conclusions like she did.. My cats always had a slight fever after giving birth, but it is good she is on antibotics in case she does have an infection.. I would just continue all her meds and keep her as confortable as possible.. Sending you ((((((((hugs))))))))))))) hope she is better by tomorrow, please keep us posted...

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