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    I am not sure where I should put this one. I have had 15 DMSO instills beginning 7/07 and finished my last one 4/16/07. I schedule a consultation appointment with the uro on 5/16/07. He checked my bladder through a camera. My capacity is 350 cc which the uro said looked good. He also said my bladder looked good and I was doing better than I thought.

    If my bladder looks good, I don't understand why I still am having burning. I am still a peebody using the restroom every 45 minutes to an hour on a good day. The uro gave me a new prescription for Vesicare. I had asked the uro if he thought I had vulvadynia too, he really didn't answer, but said maybe the Vesicare would help that which it won't. I am already taking 10 mg of nortriptyline for about a month already.

    What does anyone think on a better bladder but burning still exists?

    Thanks.
    bunnykinb

    6/04 dx Mild IC; 3/06 2nd hydro/cysto w/2nd uro; Moderate IC now. IBS dx 11/03. 6/08 dx Vulva Vestibulitis/Pelvic Floor Spasms. 7/20/15 Feels like I have moderate IC now. Burning again.

    tried & failed treatments: Urocit K 2x/day, Prelief & Atarax 25 mg 3/05-6/06; elavil 10mg 11/30/06-2/28/07 (stopped due to hunger); elmiron orally but had throat tightness;heparin instills 1x/mo 9/04-2/05;elmiron instills every 2 wks 7/05-2/06;20 DMSO 7/28/06-9/07.nortriptyline 10mg 4/07-10/07current meds/treatments:Tofrinal 25mg;Yasmin bc. Heparin instills every 2 weeks 2/08-present. Mix: 8cc lidocaine, 8cc heparin (40,000 units), & 3cc sodium bicarb. main symptoms: frequency & labia/clitorial burning


  • #2
    My dr said your bladder could still look good with IC.
    I am 28 and have been married for 7years. I have two boys one is 6 and the other 2. I have worked at the same job for 10 years.

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    • #3
      You know with burning it could also be something you are eating or drinking..Certain things make me burn like foods with vinegar and soft drinks and spicy foods...
      Hugs
      Ronda

      ONE Second, ONE Bite, ONE Breath, ONE Pill, ONE Minute, ONE Teardrop, ONE Hour, ONE Sip.. ONE DAY! I will Prevail from this disease! IC Hoping for a Cure!


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      http://www.ic-network.com/handbook/

      Diet Reference Sheet:
      http://www.ic-network.com/diet/icndi...tsheet0909.pdf

      Meds For IC: Lyrica-25mg Glucosamine-500 MSM-500mg, Prosed Ds -When Flaring

      Other Meds: Levlite- Continious Birtcontrol, Micardis-40mg for High Blood Pressure

      Meds I have Tried:
      Topamax,Tofranil, Elmiron, Atarax, Cymbalta, Elavil, Enablex, Detral La, Prydium.
      Lexapro< Bad reaction to this med!
      Intstills, could not continue them due to some kind of reaction after 3rd instill. Tasted the lidocaine in my mouth, tongue and lips went numb then went into what seemed like a panic attack. Shaking, racing heart, tingling face/head, blood pressure shot up..

      Dx With IC in Nov 2006 with Hydro/Cysto
      Hydro/Cysto Caused Bladder to Rupture.

      Other Dxs-Vulvodynia,Fibro, Endo, IBS, HPV, Migraines, Spastic Colon, Mild Dysplasia.



      ICN Volunteers are not medical authorities nor do we offer medical advice. In all cases, we strongly encourage you to discuss your medical treatment with your personal medical care provider. Only they can, and should, give medical recommendations to you.

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      • #4
        Even though an IC bladder may look good, a person could still have symptoms? From 7/06 to 4/07, even though with DMSO instills, I was having burning continually. I just don't understand how my bladder could look good. The cystoscopy was at the doctor's office. My bladder wasn't stretched as much as possible like it was under anesthesia. I had a cystoscopy done last March 2006. That uro labeled me as moderate IC. I had many pinpoint fissures and blood.
        bunnykinb

        6/04 dx Mild IC; 3/06 2nd hydro/cysto w/2nd uro; Moderate IC now. IBS dx 11/03. 6/08 dx Vulva Vestibulitis/Pelvic Floor Spasms. 7/20/15 Feels like I have moderate IC now. Burning again.

        tried & failed treatments: Urocit K 2x/day, Prelief & Atarax 25 mg 3/05-6/06; elavil 10mg 11/30/06-2/28/07 (stopped due to hunger); elmiron orally but had throat tightness;heparin instills 1x/mo 9/04-2/05;elmiron instills every 2 wks 7/05-2/06;20 DMSO 7/28/06-9/07.nortriptyline 10mg 4/07-10/07current meds/treatments:Tofrinal 25mg;Yasmin bc. Heparin instills every 2 weeks 2/08-present. Mix: 8cc lidocaine, 8cc heparin (40,000 units), & 3cc sodium bicarb. main symptoms: frequency & labia/clitorial burning

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        • #5
          cystos without hydros are pretty useless when it comes to detecting the severity of the IC
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          • #6
            That is what I thought. How could the uro see how my bladder was really doing with the DMSO if he hadn't performed it with a hydrodistention too. Maybe, the uro wants to get rid of me?
            bunnykinb

            6/04 dx Mild IC; 3/06 2nd hydro/cysto w/2nd uro; Moderate IC now. IBS dx 11/03. 6/08 dx Vulva Vestibulitis/Pelvic Floor Spasms. 7/20/15 Feels like I have moderate IC now. Burning again.

            tried & failed treatments: Urocit K 2x/day, Prelief & Atarax 25 mg 3/05-6/06; elavil 10mg 11/30/06-2/28/07 (stopped due to hunger); elmiron orally but had throat tightness;heparin instills 1x/mo 9/04-2/05;elmiron instills every 2 wks 7/05-2/06;20 DMSO 7/28/06-9/07.nortriptyline 10mg 4/07-10/07current meds/treatments:Tofrinal 25mg;Yasmin bc. Heparin instills every 2 weeks 2/08-present. Mix: 8cc lidocaine, 8cc heparin (40,000 units), & 3cc sodium bicarb. main symptoms: frequency & labia/clitorial burning

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            • #7
              my bladder looked fine too, but it definitly was NOT fine! i still have a lot of pain, and my doctor said based on my symptoms, i most likely have IC anyway. the only thing i can think is, maybe you dont have visible ulcers, but you could still have lots of mast cells secreting irritating histamine on your nerves so that you feel lots of pain, even if you dont SEE anything. i'm doing better on meds, and tahts all i care about!
              diagnosed IC Jan 2007 (though i feel i've had it mildly for years)
              frequent UTIs
              No frequency, just urgency and pain!


              tramadol 50mg twice a day. this stuff works good for nerve pain!!!! (update, i'm down to mostly one pill a day now!)

              Physical Therapy. if you have pelvic nerve pain or muscle pain, its worth a try. it helped me with the constant burning.

              TENS may help a little

              Cystoprotek might be helping as well. i'm getting better as time goes on and this could be why.

              fish oil, herbal teas, skullcap (might try passionflower for nerves) I'm not very diet sensitive.

              Went OFF elavil and nortryptiline (worked wonders, but didnt like the weight gain)

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              • #8
                With the first uro, I had a cystoscopy in the office, but the uro did a cysto with hydrodistention since he said it was impossible to determin IC without that. If the current uro really thinks my bladder has improved, then maybe he should do another hydro, I bet that will prove him wrong.

                Why would he tell me I am better than I think? So far, the Vesicare has kept me longer away from the restroom. 3-4 hours to be exact.
                bunnykinb

                6/04 dx Mild IC; 3/06 2nd hydro/cysto w/2nd uro; Moderate IC now. IBS dx 11/03. 6/08 dx Vulva Vestibulitis/Pelvic Floor Spasms. 7/20/15 Feels like I have moderate IC now. Burning again.

                tried & failed treatments: Urocit K 2x/day, Prelief & Atarax 25 mg 3/05-6/06; elavil 10mg 11/30/06-2/28/07 (stopped due to hunger); elmiron orally but had throat tightness;heparin instills 1x/mo 9/04-2/05;elmiron instills every 2 wks 7/05-2/06;20 DMSO 7/28/06-9/07.nortriptyline 10mg 4/07-10/07current meds/treatments:Tofrinal 25mg;Yasmin bc. Heparin instills every 2 weeks 2/08-present. Mix: 8cc lidocaine, 8cc heparin (40,000 units), & 3cc sodium bicarb. main symptoms: frequency & labia/clitorial burning

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                • #9
                  Here it is June 7 and I am still having constant urethral burning. I had it everyday last week, and now with my period it is worse. I really don't think my bladder is any better. Boo hoo for me. One more week before I go back to the uro.
                  bunnykinb

                  6/04 dx Mild IC; 3/06 2nd hydro/cysto w/2nd uro; Moderate IC now. IBS dx 11/03. 6/08 dx Vulva Vestibulitis/Pelvic Floor Spasms. 7/20/15 Feels like I have moderate IC now. Burning again.

                  tried & failed treatments: Urocit K 2x/day, Prelief & Atarax 25 mg 3/05-6/06; elavil 10mg 11/30/06-2/28/07 (stopped due to hunger); elmiron orally but had throat tightness;heparin instills 1x/mo 9/04-2/05;elmiron instills every 2 wks 7/05-2/06;20 DMSO 7/28/06-9/07.nortriptyline 10mg 4/07-10/07current meds/treatments:Tofrinal 25mg;Yasmin bc. Heparin instills every 2 weeks 2/08-present. Mix: 8cc lidocaine, 8cc heparin (40,000 units), & 3cc sodium bicarb. main symptoms: frequency & labia/clitorial burning

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                  • #10
                    I have the same symptom of urethral burning as you do...I am trying out MSM gel (topical gel applied to the urethral opening area). I saw another person on here trying it and she said it worked! She gave me a website to order it from: www.jacoblab.com. I haven't received it in the mail yet, I ordered it yesterday. Maybe you'd like to try it? She said it worked in 3-4 days...I HOPE I have the same luck!

                    Good Luck!!
                    Diagnosed with IC April 2007
                    Stage IV Endometriosis - April 2005

                    Current Medications:

                    Elmiron - 3x/day 100mg
                    Elavil - 50mg at night
                    Enablex - 15mg/day
                    YAZ - Birth control to stop my period (Period = FLARE!)

                    Additional Herbs & Supplements:

                    Cystoprotek (6 pills/day)
                    MSM/Glucosamine Capsules
                    MSM gel (For Urethral Pain)
                    Omega 3 Fish Oil
                    Indole-3-Carbinol (For the Endometriosis)

                    Too many medications for a 25 year old!

                    I WILL conquer this disease!

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                    • #11
                      I have MSM gel too. I have tried to remember to put it on after restroom visit. So far, I haven't had any relief from it yet in 5 days of use. I see the uro next week.
                      bunnykinb

                      6/04 dx Mild IC; 3/06 2nd hydro/cysto w/2nd uro; Moderate IC now. IBS dx 11/03. 6/08 dx Vulva Vestibulitis/Pelvic Floor Spasms. 7/20/15 Feels like I have moderate IC now. Burning again.

                      tried & failed treatments: Urocit K 2x/day, Prelief & Atarax 25 mg 3/05-6/06; elavil 10mg 11/30/06-2/28/07 (stopped due to hunger); elmiron orally but had throat tightness;heparin instills 1x/mo 9/04-2/05;elmiron instills every 2 wks 7/05-2/06;20 DMSO 7/28/06-9/07.nortriptyline 10mg 4/07-10/07current meds/treatments:Tofrinal 25mg;Yasmin bc. Heparin instills every 2 weeks 2/08-present. Mix: 8cc lidocaine, 8cc heparin (40,000 units), & 3cc sodium bicarb. main symptoms: frequency & labia/clitorial burning

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