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    Man w/ Problems

    Over the last few years I began urinating more frequently at night 1-2x (where I used to sleep thrugh the night).

    I then went in for a prostate and ultra sound exam. All went normal, was just tired of waking up in the night.

    A week later I felt as though I had to urinate all the time with a low grade pain in the pelvic area.

    I went on months of Cipro and Tetracycline with some ups and downs (some repeates but mostly OK)

    I then went through periods where all was well and then out of no where another urinary flare up.

    I got a cystoscopy and there was some inflamation in Uretha and bladder. Also the uretha was a little narrow at the end so my dr. prescribed Cardura. All went well for 4 months.

    Now pain and urinary frequency are back. I went for cat scan and have scheduled a hydrodistention.

    I think I'm close to figuring this out, a possibility is I/C, but I need advice to see if this sounds familiar to anyone?

    Also I fear the aftermath of the distention, How long of a recovery is it especially if you have I/C?

    Does I/C appear out of nowhere?

    PS: pyridium ,Bextra, and Monk like diet combo minimize the pain and frequency during inflamation??? Hope that helps someone

  • #2
    Hey you. I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling so badly lately. I'm not a doctor, actually far from it... hehe But you're describing my symptoms of IC. But, there is hope!! The hydo will help your doc to diagnose IC, if that's what you have. I was fully recovered from my hydro within 3 days. I had mine on a Friday afternoon and was back to work on Tuesday. I would have been back to work on Monday, except I took full advantage of my pain meds and hung out with my friends on Saturday... (Not too smart...) As far as IC coming out of nowhere, I didn't have any bladder issues until I got a UTI and peed my pants in public. From that day forward, I've had the never-ending joy of peeing my pants almost everyday... hehe There isn't one specific reason why IC strikes. Some people just wake up one morning and have it. Some are like me, an infection brings it on... If you ever want to talk, you have any questions at all, or you even just want someone to complain to, just PM me or slip me an email. I'd love to help you out! I know that it's hard to live with IC. But there are tons of people here to help you cope! I know that all these guys help me through the hardest times with my disease and I know that they will be there as long as I need them. That's what friends are for. I'm sending you some sugar-coated, happy little thoughts, so that when life gets horrible, you have the strength to make sure that the potty-man doesn't suck you down.

    ~mel~ toilet blink
    Life is just a cycle of brilliance and blues. I can't help it if I'm stuck in brilliance.. hehe

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    • #3
      Thanks for your kind words...
      This seems like insanity, but your right life must go on.

      I don't know how much stress has to do with this what are your thoughts? If so what relaxation techniques are there?

      As for food changes what tyoe of diet do you hold to?

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      • #4
        It sounds similar to some symptoms I had. I hope the cysto w/ hydro gives you some more answers.

        Stress can definitely make my IC worse. Stress does not cause IC, but it sure aggravates it. There is a page here that talks about the role of stress in IC. If you are interested, here's the link:

        http://www.ic-network.com/clinicaltr...ngton1202.html
        Kim

        Diagnosed August 2001

        Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


        Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

        I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

        *****************************

        “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

        “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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        • #5
          Oh, and in terms of diet, this page from the Patient Handbook is a wonderful place to start:

          http://www.ic-network.com/handbook/diet.html#topten
          Kim

          Diagnosed August 2001

          Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


          Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

          I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

          *****************************

          “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

          “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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          • #6
            thanks I will check these out. I guess the hydrodistention is next. If that's a positive then I will have to post to see what drug cocktails work??? banghead

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            • #7
              There are oral drugs, too, that might help. You might take a peek at the section in the Patient Handbook on treatments. That way IF you do have IC you and your doc can discuss lots of options.
              Kim

              Diagnosed August 2001

              Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


              Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

              I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

              *****************************

              “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

              “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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              • #8
                Hi and good luck with your hydrodistension, at least it will give you a diagnosis and you can start fighting this IC pest, lots of luck Iris hi grouphug
                Today and every day you are loved, so don't be anxious about tomorrow, God will take care of you tomorrow; Live one day at a time.

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                • #9
                  hi and welcome to the boards. I am so sorry that you are going through this. It sounds like ic to me but I am no doctor. Let us know how they hydro and cysto go and please keep posting andlet us know howyou are doing.
                  Hang in there , There is hope.
                  There is hope. Prayer works.

                  Love, Debbie

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                  • #10
                    Hey there~

                    Welcome to ICN. My first clue was that I was getting up at night. Well, not out of my sleep, mostly when I first laid down I get up 15 times before I went to sleep. Ugh. ANyway, unfortunatly the diagnosis of IC is simply the ruling out of EVERYTHING else. Once you know its not an infection, an STD, kidney problems, etc, then you think IC. I am 24 and started having frequency about 3-4 years ago. After my cystoscopy with Hydrodistention under anasthethia, my urologist said he didnt see much-- he said "Lets just call it overactive bladder for now." After I told him that detrol did not work for me, and that nutra sweet bothered my bladder, he said OK you have IC. Unfortunatly no definitive test can tell you that!! Its a process of elimination....and sounds like your going through that process.

                    I would see how the hydro goes. They (if it is under anasthethia) will check your bladder capacity. THey will possibly also biopsy to make sure there are no cancerous cells, always important. Im not going to lie to you-- Although I felt no pain during or immidiatly after the procedure, i was miserable for a few weeks!! I called my uro complaining all the time. He did say when I woke up that he had been "agressive" in there so things might be sore. Uh, thanks alot. He did not see a whole lot of irritation, but he did see that I have an extra ureter from my kidney to my bladder, so I process extra urine. (I guess he was so agressive so he could show all the FIVE medical students in there my weird kidneys!! lmao Thanks a alot- -it hurt!!) Anyway, you WILL however recover. And in time, you will discover what works for you and your IC. For me, I watch my diet, but I dont just cut things out, I balance my diet more--- I drink almond milk, which is basic (opposite of acidic) and I eat lots of veggies, also somewhat basic. If i do want to eat very acidic foods, I use prelief, a calcium supplement that cuts down on the acid, before I eat. Bextra does help me on bad days. Pyridium, however, is usually NOT a long term therapy. It can damage your liver. It can be used in a flare, when your in bad pain, after your Hydro...ugh Ive used pleanty. But not an every day treatment. After awhile, I dont take the pyridium as much anymore at ALL. In fact, although it numbs me for a few hours, afterwards, I have noticed that my bladder is even more irritated so I just stay away. When Im flaring I drink my almond milk and LOTSSS of water. The best treatment for me has been to cut out "junk" in my food- Nutra sweet, preservatives, etc. I have chosen to take mostly natural supplements for my IC, glucosamine and MSM. There are many treatments, and many people on here take different things. In fact diet can be different too- what some can tolerate, others can not. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find what works for you.

                    Oh-- and if you can? Schedule your hydro when you have some time to recover, dont rush yourself.
                    Oh-- one more thing... about the stress-- having JUST graduated, YES, it plays a huge part. Progressive relaxation helps. And, while in school, just basic time management helps too. If you are in school, some schools might have free counseling and they may be able to help you with the relaxation part. I did that at my school and it was a big help. Your right-- this sounds crazy, and it is alot, but your also right, life goes on, you find what works, and you take care of yourself.
                    Good luck, I hope this helps. Dont hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. I hope you find relief soon.

                    wink Rachel
                    @[email protected]
                    "Well the Secret O'Life is enjoying the passage of time." ~James Taylor

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                    • #11
                      Hey you. Stress for me is a HUGE trigger for my IC flares. But stress doesn't cause IC. Insanity definately makes IC worse... hehe Life is hard. Life with IC is even harder. As for my diet, it's very, very bland. I follow the IC diet. I believe that the diet is on this site somewhere... The thing I miss the most is lasagna... Ah, the joys of the past. hehe If you ever need anything, let me know. ~mel~
                      Life is just a cycle of brilliance and blues. I can't help it if I'm stuck in brilliance.. hehe

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                      • #12
                        Welcome to the IC Network. I does sound like what you have could be IC. The hydrodistention is a good way to find out.

                        When I have a hydro, I plan on taking it easy for a few days, then go back to my normal routine. When I worked I took a little less than a week off, but this can vary from patient to patient. Some go to work the following day; others take a month or more.

                        Sending healing thoughts,
                        Donna
                        Stay safe


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                        Click on ICN Shop at the top of this page. You'll find Bladder Builder and Bladder Rest, both of which we are finding have excellent results.

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                        Sub-types https://www.ic-network.com/five-pote...markably-well/

                        Diet list: https://www.ic-network.com/interstitial-cystitis-diet/

                        AUA Guidelines: https://www.ic-network.com/aua-guide...tial-cystitis/

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                        • #13
                          One last thing before the distention..

                          What things should I be asking my Uro (Last check)?

                          What meds were prescribed afterwards or during distention (I/C or no I/C)

                          What does it feel like afterwards? I read mixed things it helps I/C but it can be painful? I'm a little confused... eek

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                          • #14
                            It's hard to know what questions you might have. I always think it's a good idea to write them down when you think of one --- and take the list with you to your appointment so you won't forget to ask anything.

                            I always spend a night in the hospital after a hydrodistention for a bladder irrigation and pain control. By the time I go home, I feel pretty good. That first time to urinate after a hydro can be very painful, but after a few times, it's not bad. You'll want to be sure you can urinate well before you leave the hospital. It's no fun to get home and not be able to --- unless you self cath, it can get pretty bad before you can get in to be cathed.

                            My suggestion would be to be sure you have pain medications to take for the first few days if you need them. Some doctors order antibiotics. I have IV antibiotics when I have the procedure so don't get an infection afterwards.

                            I hope your procedure goes well.

                            Warm hugs,
                            Donna
                            Stay safe


                            Elmiron Eye Disease Information Center - https://www.ic-network.com/elmiron-p...mation-center/
                            Elmiron Eye Disease Fact Sheet (Downloadable) - https://www.ic-network.com/wp-conten...nFactSheet.pdf

                            Have you checked the ICN Shop?
                            Click on ICN Shop at the top of this page. You'll find Bladder Builder and Bladder Rest, both of which we are finding have excellent results.

                            Patient Help: http://www.ic-network.com/patientlinks.html

                            Sub-types https://www.ic-network.com/five-pote...markably-well/

                            Diet list: https://www.ic-network.com/interstitial-cystitis-diet/

                            AUA Guidelines: https://www.ic-network.com/aua-guide...tial-cystitis/

                            I am not a medical authority nor do I offer medical advice. In all cases, I strongly encourage you to discuss your medical treatment with your personal medical care provider. Only they can, and should, give medical recommendations to you.
                            [3MG]

                            Anyone who says something is foolproof hasn't met a determined fool

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                            • #15
                              I just got back from the distention... I don't know whether this is the beggining or end but it does appear to be I/C (officially diagnosed),,,,, The effects of the distention feel mild at this point but I will let you know...

                              Elmiron to begin.. What should I expect
                              I see the I/C diet but are there any other no no foods you can think of..

                              I will chat again I got to get myself together

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