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    Hi everyone,

    I'm new to ICN and was finally diagnosed with IC about 5 weeks ago. For as long as I can remember I've had bladder problems. I was dilated several times when I was 4 or 5 and after about the third or fourth time I decided I was no longer going to tell my mother that it hurt when I went to the bathroom or wet my bed! Looking back over the years, I can see where I have had pain off and on and went through "phases" of recurring "UTI's". I started down the trail of getting answers to my pain 4 years ago. I had my first cystoscopy then, was told by that doc that I was "fine" and was told by another doc that it was "all in my head" and that following a UTI my bladder could be inflammed for several months before it would settle down on its own. I just decided then that it was something I had to deal with and live with the pain. In January of 2007 I began another phase of what my GP thought were UTIs. After the third one in 3 months, I was referred to another urologist. He thought that I had IC from the first visit and immediately scheduled me for a cysto with hydrodistention. The cysto confirmed the IC and now begins my new level of frustration. My current uro has told me very little other than there are ulcers on my bladder and that it was extremely bloodshot. He started me on Elmiron but that is the only medication he put me on. I'm in pain constantly and he says just to keep taking the medication that it will eventually start working. From what I've read, Elmiron won't start working until about 3 months and needs to be taken for at least 6 months if not more. Is this right? When I asked my uro about this, he said he only kept his patients on it for 3 months and anything beyond that was too long. I feel so confused, overwhelmed, and frustrated at this point. I finally have a diagnosis of IC but now I can't get proper treatment for all of my symptoms. I called the University of Maryland today and was able to schedule an appointment with Dr. Toby Chai but he can't see me until July 3. Am I wrong in thinking that more can be done to help relieve my symptoms? Oh, it's also the week before my period and that is when my pain and discomfort really seem to skyrocket. Would continuous birthcontrol pills help with this? I had a tubal 6 years ago but will readily go back on them if it will help with the pain. Also, how is it determined what degree of IC one has? I have looked on the internet and can't seem to find the criteria for mild, moderate, and severe.

    Thanks for taking the time to read all of this and listening to me vent.

  • #2
    to the ICN! Sounds like you have been threw it with the IC battle also.

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    • #3
      Hi I am so sorry that you have been getting the run around. Elmiron, if this particular medicine works for you, you have to stay on it. I think you did a wise thing and got an appointment with another doctor. Usually a doctor can tell if you have mild or severe IC. I hope your new doctor will work with you and give you more help. Certain foods can irritate your bladder more and cause more pain, and taking alot of certain medicine can also do the same. You can go to the Home page and get this information. I think you are on the right track of seeking help and not given up until you do find out what is going on with the bladder. Hope you get help soon and start to feel better.

      Sending hugs, Trishann

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      • #4
        I hope this new doctor is better to deal with. If you have a primary doctor would they be willing to prescribe some pain medication to help you until you see the new doctor. I dropped my first uro when he told me that He didn't know why I would need vicoden, which my primary had prescribed until then. I found a new uro that knows alot about IC and he sent me to a pain clinic. I was lucky that my primary knew that I was in alot of pain and kept me on vicoden until I could get other pain management. My primary agreed with me when I told him I was changing uros because he was going to suggest it too.


        Symptoms since '86 starting with frequency(told I had a small bladder)
        Diagnosed with medium IC in 2004 when pain started

        Medications:
        For IC Elavil 50 mg - Atarax 50 mg - Fentanyl 25 Patch replaced every 72 hrs

        For HBP Norvasc 5mg -Diovan 320 mg

        For Depression Wellbutrin XL 300mg

        Sinus Problems Flonase 2x daily-Alegera D when needed

        And Now Fibromyalgia


        Have Tried Elmiron (made me sick and hair loss)
        DMSO and Heparin instills no help
        All and every urgency pill
        Trileptal, Neurontin, Tramdol did nothing
        Cymbalta which made me dizzy and flushed
        Lyrica gave me night terrors each night a different family member died very vivid now I know how they got the name night terrors

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        • #5
          Elmiron is not a temporary medication. If it helps, you will probably need to keep taking it indefinitely. You might want to talk with your primary care doc about ordering it for you --- and you can also discuss pain control with him/her, at least until you get in to see the other doctor.

          Donna
          Stay safe


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          • #6
            When I asked my uro about this, he said he only kept his patients on it for 3 months and anything beyond that was too long.
            He may only keep his patients on it that long - but he's doing them a huge disservice by doing so. Elmiron can take anywhere from 6-12 months to really "work" and, as Donna, said, it is NOT a temporary medication. Those of us who are helped by it will take it indefinitely. It is only coating the bladder while we are taking it/have it in our system.

            I hope you can find a doctor who is more helpful and more up to date on the treatments for IC. Your gut feeling is right on - there IS more out there to help you.
            Kim

            Diagnosed August 2001

            Current IC meds: Elmiron (since 2001), Levaquin (one pill after intercourse to prevent UTIs), Effexor (for depression & anxiety)


            Past IC meds: Amitriptyline (Elavil), Hydroxyzine (Vistaril), Detrol LA, Lexapro (for depression & anxiety, but also helped my IC) (They all helped, but I was able to discontinue them.)

            I've been virtually symptom free and able to eat & drink whatever I'd like for about 8 years now.

            *****************************

            “We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms -- to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way.” ~ Viktor Frankl

            “You cannot control what happens to you, but you can control your attitude toward what happens to you, and in that, you will be mastering change rather than allowing it to master you.” ~ Brian Tracy

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            • #7
              Thanks everyone for your responses. I've been busy doing research and found a urogyn that treats IC. I have an appointment with him next Friday and am planning on going on continuous BCP since my symptoms definitely seem to flare before my period. I was also able to get an appt with Dr. Chai but not for another month. At least I know he's knowledgeable about IC and up to date with treatments. Now I'm in the process of trying to get my cysto pics from the surgery center. They won't release those to me (but will the operative report--I have that) and will only release them to my current uro who did the procedure. His nurse said she'd call the center and have them give them to my doc on Thursday when he's there so I guess we'll see what happens! I think it really stinks that I, who am not a trained medical professional, have to sit and research info on a disease so I can educate my doctor. Oh, I also bought "The Interstitial Cystitis Survival Guide" by Robert Moldwin today. I was surprised that it was the only book about IC at Barnes and Noble. And about pain meds, I was able to dig up an old script for Vicodin and I got that filled. I feel so incredibly confused and overwhelmed. Dr. Chai's secretary told me that he may want to do his own cysto wtih hydrodistention even though I have the report (and hopefully pic). I really don't want to go through that again. I was in incredible pain for several weeks afterwards. Thanks for listening to me ramble on.

              Jana

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              • #8
                Jana,
                Sorry you are getting the royal run around. Heck, some of us who are trained medical professionals have to wind up resorting to giving docs info and it stinks even more when you know what docs should be doing. I hope your pain is better and that your appt comes sooner rather than later. Did you ask them if they have a cancellation list or anything? Some offices do.

                Hugs,
                Barb
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                • #9
                  Yes, I am on Dr. Chai's cancellation list however he is going to be out of his office several weeks in June. She also told me that I was #15 on the wait list so my chances of getting in earlier than July 3 are slim. I think what I find so frustrating is that in any other profession, lack of knowledge is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. I am a real estate appraiser and doing a poor job can cost me my license as well as jail time if anything appears "shady". Why aren't there these standards and code of ethics for everyone offering a service to the general public?????

                  Jana

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                  • #10
                    Can I get a loud AMEN to that? :woohoo:


                    Hugs,
                    Barb
                    (Babs passed away in April 2009. We honor her memory and remember her fondly. - Jill O. ICN President & Founder)

                    [SIZE="1"]Proud mama of a gift named Lindsey who taught me through her autism what is important in life:angel:
                    :angel: IC Angel Volunteer Coordinator :angel:
                    :) Contact me via PM or e-mail if you would like to help
                    I have learned all about life in 3 words: It goes on! :D--Robert Frost
                    PCOS 7/85
                    RSD 7/94 :headbang:
                    Endometriosis 9/98 :toilet:
                    Antiphospholipid antibody syndrome 9/99
                    Kidney stones--too many to count
                    Factor V Leiden mutation 10/02
                    IC 6/03 :evilsmile
                    Deep Venous Thrombosis and Cellulitis 12/05 :loco: DVT and Greenfield Placed 3/14/08
                    "Spirit is an invisible force made visible in all of life"--Maya Angelou
                    "Ohana means family--no one gets left behind or forgotten." Stitch[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

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