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    Hi,
    I hope this is not too personal.
    In the last couple of weeks, I have developed a new symptom, rectal pain.
    The pain is sort of an ache, with spasms, (not soreness like a fissure or hemarrhoid)(sorry about the spelling). It is there all the time, but seems to get worse after a BM. There also seems to be accompanying leg pain and pain in my tail bone.
    I also am having more BM's and gas, and the urge to move my bowels all the time. I am not constipated btw.
    I have been diagnosed with IBS, but I have had that for years without the above symptoms.
    I also have a newly diagnosed cystocele.
    Does this ring a bell with anyone? I am seeing my uro tomorrow re the cystocele so will ask him,but I wanted to see if I could get any input before I go to see him.
    Thanks so much,
    Laurie

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    rectal pain

    Yes, it can definitely be a big part of the IC/pelvic pain syndrome. Depending on how much you've read or doctors you've seen, you may now be aware that IC is a syndrome that manifests in really different ways in different people...and the current understanding is that it involves nerves and muscles of the pelvic floor, hence those that support rectum and bladder....and since all the organs are so close together and the nerves so intertwined, there's a lot of crossover pain and symptoms. A great book is Ending Female Pain by Isa Herrera, and a good PT who specializes in pelvic pain should be able to help you a lot with rectal/bowel pain...and there are B &O suppositories that are very effective for those symptoms. My physical therapist really specializes in helping people like you! Contact me if you want more info. Nancy [email protected]

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    • #3
      I had severe rectal pain when I had a rectocele. Since it's a new symptom, it's good that you will be talking with your doctor about it.

      Sending healing thoughts,
      Donna
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      • #4
        Re: rectal pain

        Hi Donna
        This is an old post but the words severe rectal pain caught my eye!
        I am suffering from a severe IC flare plus my ongoing incredible rectal pain..which feels like a throbbing toothache at the anal opening.
        It's thought by my docs to be nerve pain...long story.
        I also feel that its due to my very tight pelvic floor and my years of dysfunctional voiding...( in my late teens my bladder began to feel pressure and fullness after each void, so I had to press on belly and some times even stand up to get that last drop out and feel empty.
        Doing this for over 30 years, IMHO could have brought on the bladder spasms and maybe even the rectal pain
        I noticed you mentioned a rectocele that caused you severe rectal pain.
        A few years back my pelvic pain gyn noticed a small rectocele upon examination.. She sent me to both a surgeon and a really good PT..
        both said it was basically nothing,---the surgeon said at that moment to just leave it alone. That was probably around 2008 or 2009.
        Its not something I can see or even feel, but I wonder about it sometimes. they're attributed my rectal pain to PN or the results of a misguided nerve surgery that was intended to help with sit bone pain!
        Theres no sure diagnosis, and we've gone around in circles for yearrs
        My new pain doc really wants to find a root cause.
        He asked if I had a rectocele? ..I told him the above and he didn't seem concerned.
        If you don't mind, was your rectal pain throbbing? Was it something very noticable? Did you have to surgery? Did it finally leave you?
        I hope so.
        Since I so need to address this pain I wonder about the rectocele, tho as I said it can't seen or felt at all,and I think my original pelvic gyn may have overreacted, a bit,
        as per the advice of the PT I later saw.. No other PTs or doctors have ever commented on it since.
        The rectal pain is why I have my pain pump.
        It has not provided relief and more recently I have a severe bladder flare which came on the day after a complete refill of meds...
        Now its caused me much urge and hesitancy, etc.. making the whole dysfunctional peeing thing a vicious cycle of painl
        Its awful.
        thanks for any info.. So sorry for all the questionn
        the rectocele made me wonder if was could be source of my severe pain? I doubt it, but thought I'd ask your experience.
        if you don't mind.
        Thx so much!
        Kathy

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        • #5
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          I see this is a few months old......but my OB just told me today that I have a rectocele! And it really bothers me. Headed to a urogyno!m I have soooooooo much pressure in my butt! Like I don't have enough wrong with me now this! Let me know what you all end up doing!

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          • #6
            Re: rectal pain

            I feel worse, while having so-called IBS, in reality it is fructose and dairy intolerance, so I feel worse if I eat something wrong: fruits, fructose (sugar), anything with dairy. It is worth to find out if you have some intolerance.

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              Re: rectal pain

              Krist656......what the heck do you eat?? How did you find out you have a dairy and sugar intolerance?
              KateKline
              ICN Member
              Last edited by KateKline; 12-16-2014, 01:15 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: rectal pain

                I had a rectocele, but had surgery to correct it; I think it was in 1996 or 97 --- I haven't had that problem again and the surgery wasn't difficult at all.

                Donna
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                • #9
                  Re: rectal pain

                  Rectocele can cause heaviness and bulge. when i first had mine i had pain in my tailbone
                  the specialist i saw said it was better not to operate unless you absolutely can't live with it, as the surgery is problematic (avoid mesh he advised), fails a lot, and symptoms don't resolve in many people.
                  I was lucky i found Christine Kent's Whole Woman work. changed my body, my POPs don't bother me very often any more. really recommend googling her and checking it out.
                  with a rectocele diet is key--avoid constipation. also since starting a strict IC diet my prolapses are so much better. I had this change before when i was on an anti inflammatory diet. it appears that there is an inflammatory element to prolapses (other people on Whole Woman forum found this as well). I don't eat sugar / grains / inflammatory foods plus the whole IC diet, and it's definitely made my prolapses and other inflammatory conditions better!
                  also rest assured that many many women have prolapses, it is very common, they come and go and can absolutely be managed.

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                  • #10
                    Re: rectal pain

                    Rectrocele...??? I have one very uncomfortable. I had a cystocele,and enterocele repair done Feb 2014 and now I have rectrocele. Keep us posted!!!

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                    • #11
                      Re: rectal pain

                      Often prolapses hold each other in, so having surgery on one means another appears. it seems like rectoceles and cystoceles often go together, and together can hold up a uterine prolapse keeping it from getting worse (someone called it nature's pessary--definite optimism!). i definitely feel mine ebb and flow depending on which is bigger at that moment (but luckily since following the Whole Woman work, neither bothers me as much as they did before so are manageable)

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                      • #12
                        Re: rectal pain

                        Kate,lactose and fructose intolerance are common tests here in Germany by gastroenrologists, it is breathing test. I fund out that tey do not do them in Estonia at all. Not sure about US, but I belive they do it there.
                        I am cheating a lot. I actually eat all sugar and cakes nd stuff, I found I am mostly fine with sugar and wheat, but I can not have any fruits and juice. I have vry rarely a bit, but then it hurts def.
                        Anyhow, it is hard to find food with all 3 diets!

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