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    I guess this is a bit of a vent, and im sorry if this is in the wrong place.

    I had my appt today with the uro office :-( she said the creams arent working.............and wants me to try the hot pepper cream :-(

    I was doing better before my period hit me :-(

    I really still feel i have an infection of some sort too.....

    Im at my wits end, and even thought about going to a bar and just drinking.

    she wanted to do an exam today and I said no because i have an appt tomorrow and i dont want to flare. She never told me i had to be examed EVERy appt :-( She came down on me hard too, about coaxing me and convincing me to get an exam (she never ever had to do this ever) and cant spend 45 min doing this......(today i waited for 45min to see her)......

    I asked her about PT since she said we would discuss today, 3 min discussion her handing me the script.......so i asked her if it would help with my VV and she said that it would......Im not really sure why I was just given this script now after a year of suffering. (i guess this is more PFD related)

    I just feel like there is no way out of this for me, meds arent working, creams are hit and miss, and now i will have to use the hot pepper cream. (maybe i should just go eat some thai and let that burn me naturally)

    sorry if this is a downer, i just dont know what I should do next.


    Lyme disease diagnosed 11/05
    vulvar vestibulitis diagnosed 2/06 -worst case she has ever seen..very bad.
    IC diagnosed with hydro/cysto- may 17, 2006

    Over growth of lactobicilli found 8/07 treating with doxy.

    Was able to get my first internal exam evaluation for PFD....wohoo 1/18/07:woohoo:

    8/22/07- was able to get my first speculum exam, with pap

    Strep D found in bladder with United medical labs May 2006
    2 strains of strep in stool culture 9/06
    high Strep ASO titre found 10/06

    NEW MED

    Capsasin cream-once a day for 20min,
    BUt wont lie it does burn

    About to start valium supositories for PFD

    Trigger point injections- oct 07

    Current meds:
    Neurontin- 100mg at night supposed to work up to 300mg if i can tolerate it
    Zanaflex 2mg
    IC and low oxalate diet, no sugar diet
    Xanax for appointments to help relax me since they cause so much pain

    Started PT 3/07, PT has really helped me in ways I never knew that it would

    Meds ive tried
    Lyrica
    Klonopin
    Singulair
    Claritin
    Pyridium
    Soma- can barely tolerate half a pill
    Atropine cream- didnt seem to work, although i found out I was applying the creams wrong
    Estradiol cream
    Urelle- caused worse bladder spasm and retention

    Various antibiotics for lyme which caused yeast and made the IC and VV worse

    waiting for the next chronic illness to pop up


    "Did you know?
    Every 15 seconds,
    a person is
    diagnosed with
    interstitial cystitis."
    Source: J. Dimitrakov, MD

  • #2
    HI! I just read your post and feel so for you! I've been there SO many times with dealing with IC and urethral pain and other ailments I have. Dealing with doctors alone can drive you nuts! But when you have severe pain and then have to wait around and not get proper care.......that's a whole other story!
    I don't think anyone who doesn't have IC or a major health problem would understand all we go through on a daily basis! There's days when it's all I can do to drag myself to the car for my long drive to work and then work all day and then drive back home.
    So please don't think you are in this alone.......I'll be thinking of you! Roxie

    Double Spinal Cord Stimulator surgery 8/09
    Unsuccessful MiniArc sling surgery 12/07
    Dx'd Hypothyroid
    Dx'd Chronic Axonal Neuropathy & Myopathy
    June 2007
    Dx'd IC May 2006 (after suffering for 25+ yrs!)
    First Cysto 1979
    First Hydro 1981 (Many treatments since then!)
    Collagin"Durasphere" injections for urethra
    Gall bladder surgery Aug. 2004
    Gastric Bypass Dec. 2004
    Dx'd: Barrett's Esphogus July 2004
    Dx'd: Vaginal Atrophy 2005
    Bladder surgery 2000
    Dx'd: IBS 2000
    Hysterectomy (fibroids) 1999
    Laminectomy 1989
    Dx'd: Degerative Disk Disorder 1989

    For IC I use Elmiron, Elavil and Freeze dried Aloe Vera (it works likes Elmiron, but naturally)and Azo as needed. I also take Zegerid, Randitine for Barrett's Esophagus. (which causes me to have constant yeast infections!)I take Cymbalta for Neuopathy/Myopathy pain. I use the Climara patch for menopause symptoms. I'm on a very strict diet because of the IC, IBS and Gastric Bypass. I take Primal Defense Probiotics and whole food Iron.
    I no longer have the awful urethral pain! I've been using MSM gel now for 4 mo. and haven't had a flare up or the urethra pain.....it's amazing stuff!!:woohoo:

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    • #3
      thanks roxie, ive been holding back tears all nite......

      my one friend says it sounds like the NP doesnt believe me (maybe that is it)

      I just dont know what I did wrong, i mean ive tried all the treatments they have given me........i really have.

      i really dunno what Im going to do :-(

      going to get my boxy box of tissues.


      Lyme disease diagnosed 11/05
      vulvar vestibulitis diagnosed 2/06 -worst case she has ever seen..very bad.
      IC diagnosed with hydro/cysto- may 17, 2006

      Over growth of lactobicilli found 8/07 treating with doxy.

      Was able to get my first internal exam evaluation for PFD....wohoo 1/18/07:woohoo:

      8/22/07- was able to get my first speculum exam, with pap

      Strep D found in bladder with United medical labs May 2006
      2 strains of strep in stool culture 9/06
      high Strep ASO titre found 10/06

      NEW MED

      Capsasin cream-once a day for 20min,
      BUt wont lie it does burn

      About to start valium supositories for PFD

      Trigger point injections- oct 07

      Current meds:
      Neurontin- 100mg at night supposed to work up to 300mg if i can tolerate it
      Zanaflex 2mg
      IC and low oxalate diet, no sugar diet
      Xanax for appointments to help relax me since they cause so much pain

      Started PT 3/07, PT has really helped me in ways I never knew that it would

      Meds ive tried
      Lyrica
      Klonopin
      Singulair
      Claritin
      Pyridium
      Soma- can barely tolerate half a pill
      Atropine cream- didnt seem to work, although i found out I was applying the creams wrong
      Estradiol cream
      Urelle- caused worse bladder spasm and retention

      Various antibiotics for lyme which caused yeast and made the IC and VV worse

      waiting for the next chronic illness to pop up


      "Did you know?
      Every 15 seconds,
      a person is
      diagnosed with
      interstitial cystitis."
      Source: J. Dimitrakov, MD

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      • #4
        I am so sorry that you have had such a rough day. From reading your post, it sounds as though you have lost faith in your Dr. and her NP. If this is the case, it may be time to find a new one with a fresh perspective. If nothing else, it might be worthwhile just to get a 2nd opinion.

        I think the experiance you have had pretty well describes my own frustration with various Drs. I get extremely frustrated with how slowly things move. You go in and tell them what's wrong, they prescribe something and make an appt months later. Meanwhile, it doesn't work, and we are left suffering. I hate that!! I finally have 2 Drs that will schedule me 2 weeks from when they prescribe something to discuss how it worked to see if we need to change the dose or switch to something else. I realize that there are some meds that this wouldnt work for. And obviously, this wouldnt work for things like PT, so we adjust accordingly for things like that. Let me tell ya, it is a relief to do business this way. But, unfortunately, they are only 2 of my 5 Drs. **sigh** I just wish I could get them all to do that!!!

        So, I DO feel for you! I hope that you find something that works for you soon.
        Unfortunately, I never found anything for the VV, so ultimately, I had a vulvar vestibulectomy. It worked wonders for me. I no longer have any VV symptoms. I still have occasional vulvadynia flares, but it is usually when I am having and IC flare.

        I hope that you find something that works for you very soon!

        Hugs,
        Amy

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        • #5
          What hot pepper cream? Is she talking about Capzacin? What are you supposed to do with it? If that's what she means, please be careful with that stuff. I had Shingles and my doctor told me to put it on them, it literally burned the skin off my back. I guess I'm sensitive to it, but it's made with HOT peppers. I guess this is a tx I've never read about before, but it sounds, well, crazy!
          *IC-- Summer 2004; PFD--October 2005
          *Fibro--Fall 2000; CFS-- Fall 2000
          *MPS--Fall 2000; Crohn's disease-- 1997*IBS,GERD, *Migraines, hypothyroidism, GYN problems *Degenerative Disc Disease/scoliosis

          Total Abdominal Hysterectomy--adenomyosis--9\08

          04/17/09 Crohn's disease almost killed me with a combo of extreme constipation from pain medications. My bowel ruptured, I almost died from peritonitis and spent several days in the ICU then more in a private room on the floor. If you have any questions about severe constipation from pain meds please don't hesitate to send me a message.

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          • #6
            Thanks again,

            I am going to look for a 2nd opinion, but Im not sure anyonelse in my area is as good as the Dr office I go too(speaking from reputation, not how i was treated) I am going to look into it though, if only to go for an evaluation and in hopes to be treated like a human being for once.
            I have Lyme disease and very high cortisol levels, which I dont think the VV can resolve with both of these issues not being treated.

            And one of the meds I am on causes me pain when i pee in the morning, i guess cause it knocks me out so much during the nite, i dont wake to pee....so now im in a bladder flare.......i never had this problem before my hydro/cysto, only after, never had much bladder pain before it. I bled horribly after.

            Yes the peper cream is the capsasin, supposedly they will cut it down to see how i tolerate it, right now my VV only hurts with exams and to touch....it used to hurt 24/7 to the point i had to stand and couldnt sit, so i guess im not going to be 'complient' to this treatment.


            Lyme disease diagnosed 11/05
            vulvar vestibulitis diagnosed 2/06 -worst case she has ever seen..very bad.
            IC diagnosed with hydro/cysto- may 17, 2006

            Over growth of lactobicilli found 8/07 treating with doxy.

            Was able to get my first internal exam evaluation for PFD....wohoo 1/18/07:woohoo:

            8/22/07- was able to get my first speculum exam, with pap

            Strep D found in bladder with United medical labs May 2006
            2 strains of strep in stool culture 9/06
            high Strep ASO titre found 10/06

            NEW MED

            Capsasin cream-once a day for 20min,
            BUt wont lie it does burn

            About to start valium supositories for PFD

            Trigger point injections- oct 07

            Current meds:
            Neurontin- 100mg at night supposed to work up to 300mg if i can tolerate it
            Zanaflex 2mg
            IC and low oxalate diet, no sugar diet
            Xanax for appointments to help relax me since they cause so much pain

            Started PT 3/07, PT has really helped me in ways I never knew that it would

            Meds ive tried
            Lyrica
            Klonopin
            Singulair
            Claritin
            Pyridium
            Soma- can barely tolerate half a pill
            Atropine cream- didnt seem to work, although i found out I was applying the creams wrong
            Estradiol cream
            Urelle- caused worse bladder spasm and retention

            Various antibiotics for lyme which caused yeast and made the IC and VV worse

            waiting for the next chronic illness to pop up


            "Did you know?
            Every 15 seconds,
            a person is
            diagnosed with
            interstitial cystitis."
            Source: J. Dimitrakov, MD

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            • #7
              If it works for you then great! I was told to use the over the counter stuff and I guess I had a terrible reaction to it. It seems drastic to me considering the pain it put me in, plus temporary red scarring on my back and hips....but that is probably just me. I see commercials for the stuff all the time and others are able to use it. I just sit and scratch my head wondering how they use it?

              I probably don't know the specifics of the cream...is it the over the counter stuff and you just put it on your vulva?
              *IC-- Summer 2004; PFD--October 2005
              *Fibro--Fall 2000; CFS-- Fall 2000
              *MPS--Fall 2000; Crohn's disease-- 1997*IBS,GERD, *Migraines, hypothyroidism, GYN problems *Degenerative Disc Disease/scoliosis

              Total Abdominal Hysterectomy--adenomyosis--9\08

              04/17/09 Crohn's disease almost killed me with a combo of extreme constipation from pain medications. My bowel ruptured, I almost died from peritonitis and spent several days in the ICU then more in a private room on the floor. If you have any questions about severe constipation from pain meds please don't hesitate to send me a message.

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              • #8
                Mich

                I notice you are from the PA area? There should be several good IC and VV people in your area. Is there not a Womans Hospital, I forget the correct name but I have seen some cutting edge research out that group.
                I would look around for a new set of care givers, these dont sound too sharp to me.
                Sammi

                Sammi

                Meds: Melatonin 3mg @ bedtime if needed. Estrogen 1.5 mg troche and 0.1 mg Estrace cream.
                Diagnosis: IC, PFD (both in remission)

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                • #9
                  Thanks Sami- the one you mention is the one i go too i think.

                  Im looking at other options.

                  Today I had a pleasant appt with my new gyno....he is great, so nice and listens, i wasnt rushed and he was busy and his staff wasnt stressed at all. Im not sure if he treats VV and IC though as he was referred by the uro NP office, i will ask at my next appt.
                  I left the office with a smile, which i soooo needed after yesterday.


                  Lyme disease diagnosed 11/05
                  vulvar vestibulitis diagnosed 2/06 -worst case she has ever seen..very bad.
                  IC diagnosed with hydro/cysto- may 17, 2006

                  Over growth of lactobicilli found 8/07 treating with doxy.

                  Was able to get my first internal exam evaluation for PFD....wohoo 1/18/07:woohoo:

                  8/22/07- was able to get my first speculum exam, with pap

                  Strep D found in bladder with United medical labs May 2006
                  2 strains of strep in stool culture 9/06
                  high Strep ASO titre found 10/06

                  NEW MED

                  Capsasin cream-once a day for 20min,
                  BUt wont lie it does burn

                  About to start valium supositories for PFD

                  Trigger point injections- oct 07

                  Current meds:
                  Neurontin- 100mg at night supposed to work up to 300mg if i can tolerate it
                  Zanaflex 2mg
                  IC and low oxalate diet, no sugar diet
                  Xanax for appointments to help relax me since they cause so much pain

                  Started PT 3/07, PT has really helped me in ways I never knew that it would

                  Meds ive tried
                  Lyrica
                  Klonopin
                  Singulair
                  Claritin
                  Pyridium
                  Soma- can barely tolerate half a pill
                  Atropine cream- didnt seem to work, although i found out I was applying the creams wrong
                  Estradiol cream
                  Urelle- caused worse bladder spasm and retention

                  Various antibiotics for lyme which caused yeast and made the IC and VV worse

                  waiting for the next chronic illness to pop up


                  "Did you know?
                  Every 15 seconds,
                  a person is
                  diagnosed with
                  interstitial cystitis."
                  Source: J. Dimitrakov, MD

                  Comment

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