Prelief and Kidney Stones

[thegabrielle]

My urilogist said that I have 2 very, very small kidney stones and told me to stay away from Calcium vitamins. Prelief contains calcium would this conttibute to my kidney stone problem?

Thanx,
Renee

[ICNDonna]

I have no idea whether Prelief might be related to your stones, but if your doctor said to avoid calcium --- Prelief does contain calcium.

For most of us that's a plus, but you should probably avoid it as long as you're supposed to stay away from calcium.

Hugs,
Donna

[Kara]

I went to the hospital on wednesday night with severe back pain and severe abdominal cramping. They did blood work and found that i had a high white blood cell count and that my protein was low. They took 2 cat scans and found 2 kidney stones that are coming down my left ureter. AHHHHHHHHH they said it could take 2-3 weeks to pass them. They also found a horrendous Urinary Tract Infection. I was sent home with Cipro and pain meds (Lortab) for the kidney stones. She explained to me that kidney stones don't have to be large in order to cause the patient to suffer excruciating pain. She also explained that even the tiniest stone can cause H*** for the patient. I'm stil recevering from my bladder removal so this is the last thing I needed......She told me to stay far far away from Milk until the kidney stones pass. I see my new urologist next week. I hope he follows up with this whole situation.

Just wanted to let you know you are not alone with the kidney stones.

Kara [img]frown.gif[/img] [img]frown.gif[/img]

[angiec]

You MAY only have to stay away from calcium until the stones pass and they figure out what kind of stones you are creating. If they didn't give you a "hat" to catch the stones, ask for one so that you can have your stones evaluated once you pass them. Not all stones are caused by calcium and therefore do what your doc says until you can get more information. Hang in there.
Hugs..
Angie

[thegabrielle]

Kara and Angie,

Thank you for your replies [img]smile.gif[/img] ! After numerous testing the urilogist finaly found my 2 small kidney stones with a catscan of my pelvic area. All the dr said was to stay awy from calcium viatims that milk would be okay to drink and he did give me a stone catcher. The dr said that the stones were too small to do anything about right now, that I should come back in six months if not passed. But I do have an appointment next week with the urilogist because my problem has not gone away and my gynocolist suggested that I see the urilogist and ask about IC. They have never found bacteria in my urine after numerous urine cultures, just once they found traces of blood. And my gyn did all the testing she could for diffrent vaginal infections and could not find anything. When the uriologist did a cyscotpy with hydro he said my bladder looked irritated but drained well. So I have been researching IC since my gyno suggested it. I have all the classic syptoms burning, pain in the stomach and pelvic area. I wonder if the small kindey stones are causing this and I don't have IC? Or do I have IC and just have two small kidney stones? But I guess I have to wait and took to my doctor this is frustrating <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[banghead]" />
I have also changed my diet to just very bland foods and that does not help either!

Take Care,
Renee

[prbetty]

Dear Renee:

Donna is correct; Prelief is calcium and if you are not supposed to have calcium, you should not take Prelief.

Some researchers believe that not enough calcium causes stones, but apparently it depends what kind of stones you get. According to the article that I read, some stone formers may indeed reduce their chances of recurrence by cutting down on calcium and you should talk to your doctor and take his advice.

Betty Corson
[email protected]
1-800-994-4711

[thegabrielle]

Betty,

Thank you for your advise. I will talk to my doctor.

Thanx,
Renee

[angiec]

Okay..
So I don't usually give medical information as I feel that is for a doctor to do, but I will explain what I have been led to understand about a certain type of kidney stone. Yes..it DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF STONE as to whether you should or shouldn't intake calcium, BUT..I have calcium oxilate stones which are one of the most common. My uro informed me that the misconception is that intaking too much calcium causes these stones (I don't intake enough as it is). That can be one of the reasons for some people, but one of the other reasons (and she said, I quote, "especially for IC patients") is that we tend to not drink enough water because of our frustration with our trips to the bathroom that we already have. As a school teacher I was definitely guilty of not intaking enough water because I couldn't use the restroom as much as I needed to..ANYWAY..
Bottom line is that when we don't take in enough water we become dehyrated and our bodies compensate for it by extracting calcium from our bones which, in some people, can end up creating calcium oxilate stones.
So..just a heads up as to making sure to drink lots and lots of water with kidney stones. Not only does it help flush them out, but also, in some instances, helps reduce your chances of getting them again.
Hope this helps and doesn't sound too "know it all ish."
Hugs
Angie <img src="graemlins/baby.gif" border="0" alt="[baby]" />

[lauriejwas]

Good information from everyone. I too have passed a very painful stone (before I had IC) and have found out that I have another small one. It's very important to try to catch it in the thing they give you, so you have to use it every time you pee. Then they can analyze it to see what caused it. My general doctor (who really doesn't seem to be an expert at these things) had told me to stay away from calcium, but my naturpath AND my IC doc have told me to take calcium citrate with D. Since I'm in a flare at the moment, I'm going to wait until it dies down, then try the calcium citrate (one in the a.m.) to see how my body reacts. I don't want to go without calcium, and I've even read postings here that calcium citrate helped a number of people with IC. My IC doc has ordered another ultrasound of my kidney stone to see where it is now. He says that it's good to have one done every so often to see where it is. Not sure why...I'll have to ask him.

[TabbiH]

If you catch the stone, it can be analyzed. Stones can be made up of lots of different things. Depending on the type, you can get medication to prevent them from forming (it helps, but doesn't prevent.) In my case, the urologist gave me a list of foods that might increase the frequency of stones, including things like spinach and tea. Dairy products aren't on the list, and I figure that some kidney stones are much better than osteoporosis and brittle bones later on. Long-term function is important to keep, and there's lots of pain meds for the stones.