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  • Interstim Surgery Failed Twice - Infection & Malfunction

    Here's an email I received yesterday from an IC patient... and she gave me permission to post this here. Sadly, this is not a rare adverse event. The FDA database is FILLED with patients reporting infections, in some cases MRSA. I think it's important that patients know of the risks and what others have experienced. Jill
    Dear Jill

    I wanted to say how much I enjoy the video's and how they make me feel I am sitting across the desk from you receiving information and not reading some "cold" information from a book. Not that books are not a good source of education, I have read many of them and they are very helpful.

    I wrote you around the middle of last year and told you I was getting bilateral interstims, one for bladder and one for pudendal nerve (bicycle) area and of course for urgency/frequency and retention. You mentioned that I stay in touch and let you know the progress. Well, here it is:

    It all started out like a dream come true. For the first three months I was able to control the intensity of the stimulation and even change the area being stimulated with the programmers I received after surgery. I had my life back and my husband and I could comfortably be intimate a couple of times a week. My surgery was on May 24, 2010.

    On the weekend of our 32nd anniversary; August 4th (voila!) I felt what seemed to be a wire or something popping loose from the neuromodulator on the right side. As it turned out it was a stitch that had never dissolved. I thought for a few days that perhaps it was my imagination but there was a little stinging every once in a while when I would walk long distances.

    Then, I realized there was a bit of bloody fluid on my underwear where the incision was for the implant. Then it began to get warm in that area and I got a mirror to investigate and realized I had a significant infection.

    I tried on three different occasions to make an appointment with the urologist who implanted the devices and he was out of the country so I finally realized I was going to have to see someone else. I made an appointment with another urologist on Tuesday for Friday. On Thursday I began running fever and had the bloody seepage on the left side as well and called the doctor who suggested I come on in. Well, to make a long story short he had to re-implant the devices (after a round of antibiotics) They were originally implanted too shallow and were trying to work themselves out!

    From that point forward the devices never seemed to be as effective as before. I have changed them to every position and stimulation strength they offer and they just haven't done what they did those first couple of months.

    The original urologist who implanted the first devices came back and was informed about my situation and wanted to see me (the second time since my surgery!) so I went in. He had a Medtronics rep there who tried to reprogram the stimulators, first the right side which, after 30 minutes, he had to completely turn off. We're still not sure what has happened to it and why it isn't working. He feels that perhaps something was misplaced when it was reimplanted.

    Then the Medtronics guy tried to reprogram the left side and after an hour and ten minutes he finally found a setting that gave me a measure of comfort in the pudendal area. Unfortunantly that lasted two days and all the stimulation moved to the rectal area and was so painful I couldn't take it. I called the office and was told just to turn the device off.

    So, here's the dilema. I have bilateral implants (model 3058 interstims) and neither of them are working. A friend had this same surgery 1 week before I did and has been opened 6 times because of problems. I am having surgery Monday the 21st (next week) to have the modulators removed.

    Medtronics has tried to get me to leave them, allow them time to custom make longer leads and try this again but with my friends situation in mind and this being my third time to be opened I am calling it enough. My friend told me to ask to keep the neuromodulators since I paid $10,000 each for them. She suggested that perhaps down the road they may "tweak" the leads and I can have them implanted again.

    I do want to say while they were working I literally felt I was walking around in a dream of some kind. That's how much they helped me. Not only did they help with the IC and I sure can't explain this but they helped with the IBS as well. It's very depressing to have to give up on this for now but maybe I'll have a more positive report sometime in the future. This is not something I would want printed publically because I don't want anyone hurt by it. I realize we're just still in the "learning years."

    Thanks again for all you do!
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  • #2
    WOW I am so sorry you have gone through any of this. ~~~hugs~~~~
    I had my first one done in 03 and my second in 06. I was a success for the first one till I fell and broke it. My second one worked great for a while but it has been off 2 or 3 years, it is possessed and comes on here and there. I hurt and feel a burn, pinch pain, pain down my leg across my butt and up my back. I have xrays to see if it moved, but apparently it is fine as of 8/10 I asked to have it removed and they want to sync it and see if the settings can be changed. I had that done before and it took 2 hours and I got tired and wanted to go home.
    I have learned I may or May not have cushings disease, a tumour in or around mu pitituarty gland I was told that the only way to be positive is an mri so My dr will be writting a letter fo a medically necessay removal and the leads. I let them keep the first one which is fine i fell on it, but there not getting this one. I may need it one day because some days the pain is so intense I cant do anything.

    Please keep us posted and take care,
    'The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.'

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    • #3
      New to this section of the forum

      Hi there,

      I never normally stray into this section of the forum, as I haven't had Sacral Nerve Stimulation yet, and I realise that the people who have often have very differrent results...I totally respect everyones individual experiences as I know how hard it is trying to justify I.C and it's symptoms all the time. From what I have read, it is the same for people who have SNS fail.

      But my new Urologist has told me that he would like to try Sacral Nerve Stimulation if my next operation (making a slit in my urethra) doesn't show results.

      However, I have made some bad decisions in the past and I desperately want to avoid making another one. I don't want to look back in a few months time and think 'If only I hadn't done it.'

      Reading this story has made me very scared. Can anyone tell me if there is any way to know whether it is likely to work for you? Also, what is the percentage success rate and the ratio of success to failure? Basically, how big a gamble am I taking if I get this done???

      Jem

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jem View Post
        Hi there,

        I never normally stray into this section of the forum, as I haven't had Sacral Nerve Stimulation yet, and I realise that the people who have often have very differrent results...I totally respect everyones individual experiences as I know how hard it is trying to justify I.C and it's symptoms all the time. From what I have read, it is the same for people who have SNS fail.

        But my new Urologist has told me that he would like to try Sacral Nerve Stimulation if my next operation (making a slit in my urethra) doesn't show results.

        However, I have made some bad decisions in the past and I desperately want to avoid making another one. I don't want to look back in a few months time and think 'If only I hadn't done it.'

        Reading this story has made me very scared. Can anyone tell me if there is any way to know whether it is likely to work for you? Also, what is the percentage success rate and the ratio of success to failure? Basically, how big a gamble am I taking if I get this done???

        Jem
        These are all questions for your Doctor. Some of us have had good results, some not so good. I encourage you to really research the interstim with your Uro, ask them how many they have done. Go through these boards over and over again. They will give you a total overview of the "interstim journey" good and bad. GOOD LUCK!
        This diagnosis is just one more thing in a list of annoying other condidtions I have like many of the rest of you...

        I AM NOT A DR. I CAN ONLY SHARE MY EXPERIECES.

        NOTHING THOUGH will DEFEAT ME!
        IC/PFD Diagnosed July 2009

        Bipolar (diagnosed at 30) ( Which means I am VERY wary of taking any other kind of antidepressants) currently on Trileptal, Seroquel.. Can't even REMEMBER all the ones I can't take

        IC Diet since 7/2009
        Interstim Implant 10/2010

        Fibromyalgia (14)
        TMJ (Adult)
        IBS (Diagnosed at 35)


        :woohoo:

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jem View Post
          Reading this story has made me very scared. Can anyone tell me if there is any way to know whether it is likely to work for you? Also, what is the percentage success rate and the ratio of success to failure? Basically, how big a gamble am I taking if I get this done???
          Jem
          Hi Jem, I haven't had this done but my mom had it done and she is one person who had total success though I need to clarify she didn't start out with pain. My understanding from her is that the trial is completely reversible and the reason they do the trial is to see if it will work for you. Her doctor looks for a 50% symptom reduction, if its not there with the trial then he doesn't do the 2nd surgery and removes the leads.

          This is just one persons experience and your own experience of course is unpredictable. There are probably studies that show the success rates. Research it well and talk to your doctor and maybe another doctor for a 2nd opinion who has experience with the implants to get all your questions answered.
          Cindi


          Gelnique for frequency/urgency - works great
          Macrobid after sex
          Prilosec, continuous birth control pills
          synthroid .088mg, mucinex-d, restasis

          Supplements: Desert Harvest Aloe vera, Cysta-q, prelief, magnesium and calcium, Vit D, flaxseed oil

          Diag Mild IC Jan 11 but have had symptoms for 25 years. Also have GERD, TMJ, IBS-C, chronic dry eye syndrome, hashimotos thyroiditis, non-allergic rhinitis.

          IC Diet Link: http://www.ic-network.com/diet/2009icdietlist.pdf
          AUA 2011 Guidelines to diagnosing and treating IC overview- http://www.ic-network.com/forum/showthread.php?p=571592
          AUA 2011 Guidelines to diagnosing and treating IC PDF: http://www.auanet.org/content/guidel...ent_ic-bps.pdf
          Great treatment flowchart on page 19 of the pdf

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          • #6
            I have made stickt posts you should read in the stim boards. I would have bet my last breath that this was my life savor. but I fell it broke, and it was replaced. I have had problems with the new one and it has never been able to adjusted where I could be comfortable with. Gaining and losing weight plays a role. Many had a bad expierences with theirs and I found it hard to believe when mine worked so well, I believe it is decided upon if your body excepts it or rejects it. I do know mine will be taken out.
            research reasearch reasearch go with what you gut tells you, not anyone else.
            you might get succuss like I did for a while, or it wont help you.
            'The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.'

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            • #7
              Thanks for all your responses guys,

              You have all been very helpful.

              I will def take all of the advice you have given me and make sure to talk things over thoroughly with my Doctor (if my next op is not successful enough.) I would not want to go into something naively assuming it will be plain sailing. But at the same time, I wouldn't want to be overly pessimistic. It's hard to weigh up the pros and cons sometimes! But if the time comes, I will follow my gut instinct, based on what I have been told. The idea of the 'reversible trial' is very re-assuring - I was not aware of that. Thanks again!

              Tigger Gal - I am really sorry about your bad experience and I hope you find your life saver soon. I hope we all do!

              Jem xxx

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