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  • patricia1
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    Jen I am so sorry....I have not been on since Friday Morning. I am glad so far things are going well. I know they will continue this way.

    About the sex question I have not turned mine down or off during. Even with all the problems I have had I did not. And also my hubby could never feel anything, like the pusle feeling.

    Again sorry I am now just getting back to you.

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  • Sarojini
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    Do you mean in terms of surgical pain? In my case, phase II is more painful because they have to make a larger incision in the back/upper butt, and then insert the stimulator itself deep under the skin and anchor it down.

    That's not to say that the trial phase wasn't painful -- I was pretty sore for a while with that too, but I think I'm definitely more sore after the permanent implantation.

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  • donnes007
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    Hey Jen,
    What is the difference between the pain level of phase one verses phase two?

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  • Sarojini
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    Yep, it's a real problem for us, particularly fibro patients... this time I wasn't as bad as after my c/h, because I talked to the anesthesiologist beforehand, so it can help; I guess he can use more of the drug that's supposed to prevent the soreness or something. Still, it didn't get rid of the soreness.

    Maybe a different anesthesiologist would be able to switch paralytics or whatever, but the guy I had seemed to be set in his ways. At least he TRIED though.

    I am noting that while I'm not really too sore anymore (except for a little in my quadriceps), my muscles still aren't too happy -- I started to head into our downstairs and my legs felt kinda shaky on the stairs, so I turned around and went back up. Last thing I wanted was to fall on this implant just days after getting it put in....

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  • SandyRN
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    I remember using pavulon way back when with the NICU babies on vents. I just hadn't thought about them using a paralytic with such a short procedure. It all makes sense to me now. Next time I have a hydro or other procedure done I'm going to mention this prior to anesthesia. That achey, soreness/pain was the worst part of the whole procedure for me. I remember writing on here for days and days that something was wrong with me. I guess there really was something wrong!

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  • Claredale
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    I have the same response as DebbieB. LOL!

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  • Sarojini
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    Sandy -- yes, they generally use sux in the general for a c/h too -- I had the same soreness after my c/h because of it.

    They generally use sux for shorter surgeries because the "off-time" for it is quick -- it comes off its receptors very quickly, which means paralysis doesn't last too long, making it great for short surgeries. However, they can do a continuous infusion too as long as you are well monitored, so some anesthesiologists use it for longer surgeries because it is cheap, cheap, cheap!

    However -- there are those of us, and it sounds like you are one of "us" for sure, that get the soreness BAD. We get sore because sux binds to the receptors on muscles that normally cause them to contract. When that happens, all of your muscles spasm really hard first; then, when the neurotransmitters associated with those receptors are depleted, you just flop down, paralyzed. It's that initial spasm that causes the soreness -- it's like working out every muscle in your body to the max all in one session. They give drugs to prevent soreness, but some people, especially those with fibro, don't respond to those and end up in pain anyway...

    The other paralytics are curare derivatives (pancuronium, aka Pavulon, etc) and have a longer mechanism of action -- but they don't work the same way as sux (in fact, one could say they work in the absolute OPPOSITE way, as they block rather than activate those receptors on muscles) and don't lead to such soreness. Most anesthesiologists stay away from them, though, unless it's a surgery that's going to take hours -- or if you're in the ICU and have to be tubed for several days such that they need long acting paralysis so you don't buck the tube.

    Sorry for the science here, but I find anesthesia really interesting

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  • SandyRN
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    Jen, I'm just happy to hear that you're feeling well enough to even **think** about sex! I'm sorry you've been so sore. I was the same way after my hydro. I really felt like someone had beat the crap out of me!! I felt that way for about 2 weeks, too. I know I was an exception. I hadn't thought about the 'sux...do they give that with general for a hydro too? I wonder if I was in the same small % of people you are.

    I hope by tomorrow you're feeling much better!

    Hugs, Sandy

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  • Georgia L
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    you are a good wife Jen!
    we will all be rewarded... eventually
    Keep healing!
    Just a thought... have you thought of dry shampoo? it will not be the same as a shower and washing but may be something you want to try.
    Prayerfully,
    Georgia

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  • Sarojini
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    Thanks from the gals who have had sex with the 'Stim, I appreciate your replies and look forward to more. I am nowhere near ready for intercourse at the moment since I'm so darn sore still, but it was an issue hubby raised this morning. We had a little just-him action this morning, and he wanted to at least touch me or do SOMETHING in return, but I was just in a lot of pain and was afraid to mess stuff up.... I appreciated so much that he wanted to "return the favor" ... but I was SO not in the mood...

    Still, it raised questions as to what would happen after I felt better...

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  • topcop229
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    Jen,
    Glad your soreness and rash are getting better. I still have hospital hair as well, I think I will try and do something about that tomorrow...just not feeling like messing with it today.
    I also got the hand held shower thing and the little Walgreens stool, and will probably attempt that tomorrow as well.
    Very interesting thought about intimacy and the stim...glad that a couple people have responded and hopefully some more will. I would just like to get to the point where my pelvic floor allows me to have intercourse.

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  • DebbieB
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    Hi Jen;

    Well I have had my InterStim almost eight years and I never shut it off or turn it down at all..
    Well a matter of fact it has improved my sex life very much so !!


    Cheers, Debbie

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  • Kara29
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    Interstim

    Jen,

    When I had my Interstim, We turned it down or off during intimate times.
    I hope you can get your shower and feel all clean! I know the feeling!

    Thinking of you!

    Kara and the Coons

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  • Sarojini
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    Day 3 With the Permanent Implant

    Well, my muscle soreness from the anesthesia seems to be better -- I have certain sore areas still, but it's not all over me like yesterday. Also, the itchy red rash I had in certain areas is better too -- as I said, it seemed to be in areas where I would sweat the most, and today I seem to only have a little bit around my armpits. Hopefully it will stay that way.

    I plan to take a bath today -- of course, I cannot get my incision wet, so as during the trial I will be using my trusty stool and hand-held shower to wash without getting my lower back wet. I hope that will help wash off whatever was irritating my skin and causing the rash. Plus, I'll feel better after washing my body and hair. I have "hospital hair" still, even though I brushed it yesterday You know, hair all plastered down around your head from the silly hat you have to wear into surgery, plus from all the sweating you do when you come out of anesthesia, plus from spending a day in bed.... LOL...

    I have a question for those of you who have the Interstim. When I finally heal, and everything is going as planned, what can I expect from sex?? Am I supposed to turn the stimulator off or can I leave it on? If I leave it on, what will sex feel like? Normal? Different? Just curious... actually, I hadn't been thinking in this vein at all, but Hubby brought up the subject earlier today and I started to wonder how it goes with my new body part in place!! Anyone who is willing to respond... please do
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